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RobSirg

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Re: Exhaust tips square vs round - Part 2
« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2020, 18:16:59 »
I noticed my 250SL has square edge chrome exhaust tips which happens to be the least original car of my 3 Pagoda's so I always assumed they were after-market.
How do I know if they are genuine or not? Is there someone out there selling after-market square edged tips, or do we assume them to be genuine when seen on a car?

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Re: Exhaust tips square vs round - Part 2
« Reply #26 on: April 23, 2020, 22:49:56 »
Your on a winner Rob.  Probably original. If only i could find some square ones...
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Re: Exhaust tips square vs round - Part 2
« Reply #27 on: April 24, 2020, 02:25:24 »
That car occasionally surprises me! Originally sent to Scotland, then privately exported to the USA - and I bought it off a dealer in Connecticut who was advertising it on a UK site hoping to find someone interested in a RHD.
Least original of my cars but is the only Pagoda I own with the original, small, Floor mat* on the RHS of the Trunk, and now the only one with original exhaust tips. Go figure.

(*I spent days restoring that small floor mat to put in my Burgundy 280SL  - really pleased how it finished, only to find out it doesn't fit in the 280SL because they have different jacks  ;D)
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1969 280SL Auto RHD 906G,  H'top 387H, Parchm't
1970 280SL Man. RHD Dark Red 542G, Bamboo MB Tex
1967 250SL Man. Tunis Beige
1974 White Alfa Spider 2000
2017 Range Rover
1989 Porsche 928S4 (my daily)
1967 Alfa Spider ("Duetto") Red
1977 Yellow 911 Porsche Targa
1991 Nissan Figaro
1959 190SL Black

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Re: Exhaust tips square vs round - Part 2
« Reply #28 on: April 27, 2020, 17:17:12 »
Here's the latest on the square tip project.


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Re: Exhaust tips square vs round - Part 2
« Reply #29 on: April 28, 2020, 03:24:15 »
Oh boy!  Look what my poor orphan has. 

I had my exhaust system installed by Midas back in 1989. Both exhaust tips were replaced; the invoice shows both having the same part number.  However, one is round and the other square.  Just now noticed they are different.
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Re: Exhaust tips square vs round - Part 2
« Reply #30 on: April 28, 2020, 13:57:00 »
That is awesome, so cool you got one of each !!
Some day in the, not to distant, future .....

We might all have the square ended exhaust tips on our cars.
Mark
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Re: Exhaust tips square vs round - Part 2
« Reply #31 on: April 28, 2020, 15:07:00 »
Most amazing about the round/square combination! There must have been that one lonely square edge tip on the shelf somewhere. And in the original package no doubt, so probably not easily noticed from the outside.

Very cool....
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Re: Exhaust tips square vs round - Part 2
« Reply #32 on: May 11, 2020, 05:11:39 »
Here are the latest photos.

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Re: Exhaust tips square vs round - Part 2
« Reply #33 on: May 11, 2020, 09:55:14 »
Nice,  where do i apply.😁😀
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Re: Exhaust tips square vs round - Part 2
« Reply #34 on: May 11, 2020, 14:50:12 »
hauser,
Those are looking GREAT !!
I'd like to get in line if you decide to sell some.
Take care,
Mark
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Re: Exhaust tips square vs round - Part 2
« Reply #35 on: May 11, 2020, 19:01:49 »
I could easily fabricate these but there would be so much labour time involved that they woiuld have to be 4 x the cost of the round tips. Is it worth it?

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Re: Exhaust tips square vs round - Part 2
« Reply #36 on: May 11, 2020, 20:56:11 »
And they are to look "brushed" or mat on the tips? Or you shall chrome them?
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Re: Exhaust tips square vs round - Part 2
« Reply #37 on: May 12, 2020, 05:03:43 »
I have an appointment for chrome in July so it will be done at that time along with some other items.

Yes, it makes no sense to do what I've done but more a challenge.  The tips were purchased from Timevalve for $85.00 .  The machine shop charge was another $250.00 for the first one.  Perhaps the next might be less.

I'm not so sure what happened to the chrome surface during the process. 



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Re: Exhaust tips square vs round - Part 2
« Reply #38 on: May 16, 2020, 23:01:08 »
The old Porsche 911s used that tip. Those boys stress about them too!
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Re: Exhaust tips square vs round - Part 2
« Reply #39 on: May 16, 2020, 23:27:56 »
I indicated to Fernando, hauser, that i would love to get a set of the square tipped exhausts if the price was reasonable. He has continued to pursue the possibility of having some more made by his fabricator.

I put this out there as a feeler as to the amount of interest from our members would there be in obtaining a set.  Fernando does not know the cost but it could be around $150+or - for a set depending on the number making it higher or lower. 

Is there any interest from the Members in following this up?


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Re: Exhaust tips square vs round - Part 2
« Reply #40 on: May 17, 2020, 01:30:43 »
I'm assuming the other models of the era also had the square tipped exhaust tips?  In particular, did the 6.3 originally have these?  If so this might increase the order number and lower the cost since there are so many other people that love to restore to original be it a W110 or a W100! 
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Re: Exhaust tips square vs round - Part 2
« Reply #41 on: May 17, 2020, 03:12:35 »
For some reason I picked up a single exhaust tip from a sedan which had the square tip. The length was shorter than a W113 and the diameter was larger but it has the square tip.

I would be interested if they can be produced in the $150/set range for the W113.
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Re: Exhaust tips square vs round - Part 2
« Reply #42 on: May 17, 2020, 14:04:05 »
I also found a single square tip (used) some years ago, it had, as Frank has stated, a slightly larger diameter. I gave it to a friend of mine who handles a number of other cars of the era. He indicated it was for a sedan - but I can't say if it was for a 6.3.
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Re: Exhaust tips square vs round - Part 2
« Reply #43 on: May 17, 2020, 15:19:58 »
Is there any interest from the Members in following this up?
Garry
Garry,
I'm in for ~~$150. And, not in for $400.  ;D
Take care,
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Re: Exhaust tips square vs round - Part 2
« Reply #44 on: May 17, 2020, 16:09:47 »
Hi Gary,
I would be interested in a pair for around $ 150. I liked the square tip look since i saw them on Mazmonza's ( Maurice's ) car and have been hoping a deal like this might come up since the topic started.

Stay safe out there.

Ray

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Re: Exhaust tips square vs round - Part 2
« Reply #45 on: May 17, 2020, 16:25:13 »
Me too, $150 for a pair.
Will try to survive shipment.
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Re: Exhaust tips square vs round - Part 2
« Reply #46 on: May 18, 2020, 20:28:23 »
Put me down for a pair.

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Re: Exhaust tips square vs round - Part 2
« Reply #47 on: May 24, 2020, 00:12:51 »
I’d take a pair for $150, also.

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Re: Exhaust tips square vs round - Part 2
« Reply #48 on: May 24, 2020, 00:35:30 »
I’d be in at $150
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Re: Exhaust tips square vs round - Part 2
« Reply #49 on: May 27, 2020, 01:09:36 »
I’m in at $150 thank you!