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RobSirg

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Rubber Sleeve for Breather and Water pipe
« on: February 05, 2019, 05:03:47 »
Hi All,

I'm looking for a shorter version of the protective rubber sleeve covering the breather tube and water pipe in the engine bay. I previously purchased this item with a 'rib' in (see photo's) so you could trim it down to the length you needed, however, the main suppliers these days seem to only sell it in the longer length without the rib.

Any information of where I can source the shorter version, or the version with the rib? (as shown attached).

Thanks in advance

Rob
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Re: Rubber Sleeve for Breather and Water pipe
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2019, 13:20:46 »
I have read on this forum that only the long version is available.  Maybe that has changed and someone will chime in.

Otherwise, people cut it while leaving a little extra and rolling it back on itself to simulate the rib.

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Re: Rubber Sleeve for Breather and Water pipe
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2019, 15:53:33 »
I am in need of this part as well.
How do you roll it back, it is pretty rigid?
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Re: Rubber Sleeve for Breather and Water pipe
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2019, 17:13:56 »
I replaced mine last year. My car required the long version so I didn't have to do the "roll back".

I was concerned also about getting the rubber sleeve over both pipes without breaking/ripping it.  It is durable and has much more "give" in it than I thought.

When researching how to do it I read on this forum that a couple of guys did the "roll back" method for their later cars. I don't think they gave specific instructions other than what I already stated.

I used McGuire's Hot Tire Spray as a lubricant to slide the sleeve on.



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Re: Rubber Sleeve for Breather and Water pipe
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2019, 21:37:11 »
It rolls back easy enough - it’s what l have done now but doesn’t look at all good. Not something l can accept.

I have one option l am trying to avoid - swap the one that is on one of my earlier cars over and hope it doesn’t break in the process.

The one you see in the photo was taken off an old set of pipes - but it was so rigid it broke apart ( not seen in photo).

Rob
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1970 280SL Man RHD Dark Red 542G, Bamboo MB Tex
1967 250SL Man Tunis Beige, Bamboo Int.
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Re: Rubber Sleeve for Breather and Water pipe
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2019, 12:13:57 »
It rolls back easy enough - it’s what l have done now but doesn’t look at all good. Not something l can accept.

I have one option l am trying to avoid - swap the one that is on one of my earlier cars over and hope it doesn’t break in the process.

The one you see in the photo was taken off an old set of pipes - but it was so rigid it broke apart ( not seen in photo).

Rob

What is the part # on your tube?
I believe the shorter one is 007 997 7782

https://www.theslshop.com/mercedes-benz-m114-m130-engine-rubber-breather-hose-0079977782.html

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Re: Rubber Sleeve for Breather and Water pipe
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2019, 08:06:04 »
Thanks Naj,

I will follow this lead. I might just ask the SL Shop for the dimensions to make sure.

Rob
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1970 280SL Man RHD Dark Red 542G, Bamboo MB Tex
1967 250SL Man Tunis Beige, Bamboo Int.
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2017 Range Rover
1989 Porsche 928S4 (my daily)
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Re: Rubber Sleeve for Breather and Water pipe
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2019, 05:11:45 »
Hi Naj,

I just checked the part number of the broken one I photographed (longer version with the rib) and it is indeed 0079977782.

If Mercedes still make it with rib then it will be fine - but it seems our usual suppliers are selling a version without the rib. Not sure if they are selling after-market or if Mercedes changed suppliers?

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2017 Range Rover
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Re: Rubber Sleeve for Breather and Water pipe
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2019, 13:03:14 »
When you buy Mercedes it is the long one with rib, star logo and the part number.
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Re: Rubber Sleeve for Breather and Water pipe
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2019, 00:39:42 »
I just tackeled this on my car.  I cut the sleeve cleanly where needed with a very shap knife.  I then trimmed the remainder within 1/2”(13mm) of the bead on the end. I then stretched the bead over a large rod (I used a socket) and trimmed right next to the edge bead with a razor blade.  Then I crazy glued the edges together.  I might smear a tiny bit of black urethane caulk in the groove to make it cleaner.

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Re: Rubber Sleeve for Breather and Water pipe
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2019, 00:42:59 »
Nice work a round👍
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Re: Rubber Sleeve for Breather and Water pipe
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2019, 08:04:25 »
I just tackeled this on my car.  I cut the sleeve cleanly where needed with a very shap knife.  I then trimmed the remainder within 1/2”(13mm) of the bead on the end. I then stretched the bead over a large rod (I used a socket) and trimmed right next to the edge bead with a razor blade.  Then I crazy glued the edges together.  I might smear a tiny bit of black urethane caulk in the groove to make it cleaner.

I think you got brilliant result!

I just re-applied the "terminal rib" back after carefully cuting it - it is less permanent and does not look as good as yours...
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Re: Rubber Sleeve for Breather and Water pipe
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2019, 00:26:07 »
So today I received the original part from Mercedes USA and...…..drum roll...….it has only one rib :'(

I guess I have no choice now but to slice it down to size myself and reglue it.

Who knows I probably did buy the original part in the first instance.

Case closed.
1969 280SL Auto RHD Grey Blue 906G,  H'top 387H, Parchm't Int.
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Re: Rubber Sleeve for Breather and Water pipe
« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2019, 02:01:21 »
That's a bummer.  I am not a huge fan of cyanoacrylate (crazy)glue.  But one area it really shines is gluing rubber.  I have fabricated tons of o-rings from round stock as large as 8mm and they always seem to hold.

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Re: Rubber Sleeve for Breather and Water pipe
« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2019, 16:19:28 »
Joe Alexander and I sourced the correct Breather Pipe Tube Sleeve a couple of years back and it was correct for my 1970 280SL.

Part number was : 007 997 7782

Fit nicely.

Best regards,

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Re: Rubber Sleeve for Breather and Water pipe
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2019, 19:16:44 »
Well done Shvegal
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Re: Rubber Sleeve for Breather and Water pipe
« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2019, 00:43:59 »
Joe Alexander and I sourced the correct Breather Pipe Tube Sleeve a couple of years back and it was correct for my 1970 280SL.

Part number was : 007 997 7782

Fit nicely.

Best regards,

Mike Mizesko

Yes, this is what I ordered December 2017 and I got the long one. Had to cut.
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Re: Rubber Sleeve for Breather and Water pipe
« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2019, 14:41:53 »
Same part number I ordered.

Will try "crazy" glue. I am guessing that is "superglue" in Oz?

Rob
1969 280SL Auto RHD Grey Blue 906G,  H'top 387H, Parchm't Int.
1970 280SL Man RHD Dark Red 542G, Bamboo MB Tex
1967 250SL Man Tunis Beige, Bamboo Int.
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2017 Range Rover
1989 Porsche 928S4 (my daily)
1967 Alfa Duetto Red 1600
1977 Yellow 911 Porsche Targa
1991 Nissan Figaro