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I prefer to buy a pre-cut firewall pad with a close match to the original diamond pattern with:

an approximately 4mm thick foam backing
an approximately 4mm thick jute backing
either one of the suggested backings.

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Replica "original' firewall pads
« on: May 20, 2011, 11:23:55 »
Hi,

I was wondering if there was enough interest on this forum to source a company to manufacture a near replica of the original firewall pad?

If so, it would be good to discuss here how we can go about getting the ball rolling.  I wouldn't know where to start but obviously we would need a minimum number to make it viable.

Is there any interest to do this?

Thanks

Andy
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Re: Replica "original' firewall pads
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2011, 11:27:55 »
Depending on how good the match is and a reasonable price I would be most interested in 2 sets!
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Re: Replica "original' firewall pads
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2011, 11:30:57 »
i agree, it would need to be a match otherwise no point in doing it.
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Re: Replica "original' firewall pads
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2011, 11:37:37 »
They are "sided" so while I would be interested in an RHD one, I fear there'll be insufficient demand.

I think it'd be great to get one that looked like the original but was better in terms of soundproofing...
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Re: Replica "original' firewall pads
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2011, 11:48:46 »
good point Tosh, that could be a slight problem for those this side of the pond.

But, once the material has been manfucatured we should be able to get the shape correctly cut but by somebody. I'd be pretty determined to find a way to do this for RHD cars if we can get numbers needed to go into manufacture of the material.
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Re: Replica "original' firewall pads
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2011, 12:01:36 »
I am the right side of the pond and would have no problem with a LHD one  ;D

Count me in.
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Re: Replica "original' firewall pads
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2011, 12:09:07 »
Well, I'm pretty sure that there might be a few South African pagoda owners that might be interested in the RHD configuration if it comes to getting the ball rolling...
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Re: Replica "original' firewall pads
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2011, 12:09:57 »
I would be interested in two RHD pads if they are "correct"

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Re: Replica "original' firewall pads
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2011, 13:23:24 »
I am the right side of the pond and would have no problem with a LHD one  ;D

Count me in.

Yes but you're just weird ;D
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Re: Replica "original' firewall pads
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2011, 13:28:58 »
Does anyone know the original supplier of the firewall pad with wave pattern ? I offer to call them if they are located in Germany.
They might still have the old tool available.

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Re: Replica "original' firewall pads
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2011, 01:21:27 »
I'd be interested.

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Re: Replica "original' firewall pads
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2011, 02:12:20 »
After spending years dealing with European suppliers in the yachting industry I would suspect that the original pad was discontinued because it might have broken off and dropped down on the exhaust which Could be really bad. If what I think is true the original supplier will be out.

There has to be some kind of heavy tar board that could be embossed with the proper pattern, glued to some foam and cut out with a router and a pattern.

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Re: Replica "original' firewall pads
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2011, 10:49:48 »
I agree there is probably some firm out there that can make these up given enough demand.I found a firm in the UK that makes a product called hardura that may be a place to start asking. It is at URL <http://www.woolies-trim.co.uk/c-127-hardura.aspx>. I've never dealt with them so I don't know if they would be interested. Maybe one of our UK members with an original sample would be willing to drop by and ask them?

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Re: Replica "original' firewall pads
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2011, 11:41:01 »
I'll give them a buzz on Monday to see what they say. I'm not particularly close to them but if it's a possibility,  maybe a local member could pop past.  They are close to Peterborough. If not, i'll cut a tiny sample off of one i have and post with a high res pic.

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Re: Replica "original' firewall pads
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2011, 12:12:58 »
My car needs one. Eventually. LHD.
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Re: Replica "original' firewall pads
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2011, 14:43:32 »
I would also be interested in one.
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Re: Replica "original' firewall pads
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2011, 21:39:26 »
Andy do you have the firewall material?
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Re: Replica "original' firewall pads
« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2011, 05:37:39 »
Yes I do ( it's attached to a car) but need one for a car to be restored.  i wouldn't mind a spare also so 2 required for me.
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Re: Replica "original' firewall pads
« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2011, 14:05:44 »
I believe K&K MFG tried to get some made a few years ago.

Who ever it was could not get them approved by some agency.  forgot which one..

Anyway, I'd be interested
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Re: Replica "original' firewall pads
« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2011, 15:14:53 »
Must have been the IRS.






[IRS = Internal Revenue Service. The US federal tax collecting agency]
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Re: Replica "original' firewall pads
« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2011, 17:52:42 »
http://www.woolies-trim.co.uk/ do not manufacture but have put me onto somebody else who is coming back to me.
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Re: Replica "original' firewall pads
« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2011, 18:17:16 »
I believe K&K MFG tried to get some made a few years ago.

Who ever it was could not get them approved by some agency.  forgot which one..

Anyway, I'd be interested

 It was the Depatment of Agriculture. They found bugs in the backing material. I think it was the floor insulation kits and not the firewall material.
 
The first batch of firewall pads were for 230SL's and it was thick. A later run was more like the 280SL style being thinner but without the pattern on it. I'm not sure what's available right nowbut I think it's the thinner stuff.
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Re: Replica "original' firewall pads
« Reply #22 on: May 24, 2011, 04:04:58 »
I'm in for a LHD euro if the pattern is correct and the price not too crazy

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Re: Replica "original' firewall pads
« Reply #23 on: May 24, 2011, 05:44:02 »
what about this company: www.worlduph.com/mb6.htm ?
The firewall pad is offered a little more than half way down the page. It's $140.
I don't see this company mentioned in the Suppliers list nor in the Technical Manual section on firewalls.
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Re: Replica "original' firewall pads
« Reply #24 on: May 24, 2011, 05:59:24 »
Of all the people on this forum, I don't think anyone has ever been able to say that they have been able to purchase a correct reproduction cross hatched firewall pad, either LH or RH.

I will bet that Worldup will just be like every other repro as shown in the Tech Manual.  If they did the correct pad there would be a rush.
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