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I prefer to buy a pre-cut firewall pad with a close match to the original diamond pattern with:

an approximately 4mm thick foam backing
an approximately 4mm thick jute backing
either one of the suggested backings.

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Re: Replica "original' firewall pads
« Reply #125 on: September 13, 2011, 21:19:53 »
Hi All,

Am still looking for a RHD firewall pad pattern taken from either an original one someone is removing or from a reproduction one that someone still has but not yet fitted??

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Re: Replica "original' firewall pads
« Reply #126 on: September 21, 2011, 11:55:28 »
I would like to have a pad set if they are produced.

I didn't read all the messages but has anyone sourced it's manufacture in China or India?

Somewhere, I have the email address to a restorer in the US who actually has a roll of original material that he will only use on his own cars and will not
even consider selling...I tried!!    Anyway, I could see if he'd reveal where he obtained it.   I believe that he told me he got it in Germany from the original manufacturer.    I fairly certain that he just hand cuts what he needs from the roll of material...it isn't pre-stamped.    That's another way...get it made in rolls then use a template and then hand cut them rather than using expensive machine stamps.

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Re: Replica "original' firewall pads
« Reply #127 on: September 21, 2011, 16:11:19 »
Hang tight!
In about 3 - 4 weeks we'll have what looks like a very promising update.
Alfred
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Re: Replica "original' firewall pads
« Reply #128 on: September 25, 2011, 23:06:13 »
Looks like Benz restorer (Babak on this forum?) beat you to it. Is offering pads that to my eye look very much like the original and are "peel and stick". Price quoted was about $300.

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Re: Replica "original' firewall pads
« Reply #129 on: September 26, 2011, 04:45:35 »

The current aftermarket pad sold by several eBay vendors (including our member Babak aka "Benzrestorer") also uses a jute backing but is only 4 mm thick as was the original diamond-patterned but foam backed material.


I had reached out to collaborate on this project but the communications were shot down.

As noted, I have sold aftermarket ‘firewall pads’ on Ebay for the past four years. During this time, I received lots of concerns about the firewall pad being offered. This feedback allowed me to find this 'new' firewall pad that I believe is a great solution for any restoration project.

I can arrange for the price to be adjusted for Pagoda Members.
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« Reply #130 on: September 26, 2011, 11:03:55 »
Thought others might be interested in this, especially since Garry is spending so much time working on this.  Vintage Europarts have just come out with a firewall pad they say has the original dimpled texture.  ??? See http://www.vintageeuroparts.com/100073.html
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Re: Firewall Pad
« Reply #131 on: September 26, 2011, 12:49:46 »
Jordan,

Its not the one we are working on, but is the same one mentioned by Gus on eBay by 'benzrestorer' now for USD$275 .
All will be revealed in a couple of days and most members will be very happy.

Garry
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1972 MB 280CE Auto RHD 906G Blue Grey
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Re: Replica "original' firewall pads
« Reply #132 on: September 27, 2011, 00:57:44 »
Babak

You say, "I can arrange for the price to be adjusted for Pagoda Members."

What would the price be?

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Re: Replica "original' firewall pads
« Reply #133 on: September 27, 2011, 10:31:29 »
Babak

You say, "I can arrange for the price to be adjusted for Pagoda Members."

What would the price be?

Gus


The Special Offer for Pagoda SL Group Members:
You must use this link to get the discount http://vintageeuroparts.com/100073.html
Get 20% off the Firewall Pad. Offer valid until October 27, 2011.
Use promo code: 4u280sl
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Re: Replica "original' firewall pads
« Reply #134 on: September 27, 2011, 23:41:51 »
  ....  Vintage Europarts have just come out with a firewall pad they say has the original dimpled texture.  ??? ....
Hello Jordan,
since "Imitation is the highest form of flattery" I am glad that we nurtured a copy cat with our endeavor to recreate the original firewall pad for the group.  ;)
This new "Mercedes Diamond Pattern Firewall Pad" could be the greatest of app of this century but how do we know it is true given the meager real information that is provided?
Clearly the texture is a poor clone, two rows of alternating rows of a small and a large square just don't match the array of large raised circles and small impressed squares that the original has.
The surface grain is different and we are not told how thick it is and what the added "Insulation and Sound Dampening Material" is. We know that the original had either a foam (Moltopren) or a jute/felt backing.

But do not despair (or make a hasty purchase decision), we have located again the OEM material described previously by Tom LeClerc here:
http://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?topic=4192.msg25868#msg25868
have procured sufficient quantity and are in the process of manufacturing precisely cut LHD pads for purchase at a very attractive membership price.
More details will follow in a new topic very shortly.
Alfred
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Re: Replica "original' firewall pads
« Reply #135 on: September 28, 2011, 02:08:22 »
since "Imitation is the highest form of flattery" I am glad that we nurtured a copy cat with our endeavor to recreate the original firewall pad for the group.  ;)



I’m not trying to compete with anyone in regards to this product or hinder YOUR endeavor to recreate the original firewall pad.

I never used this forum as a means of promoting a future product release or getting customers to pre-order a firewall pad. Questions were raised and I responded.

Is this firewall pad the original firewall pad manufactured by Mercedes-Benz?
NO. The original firewall pad was DISCONTINUED.
Is this firewall pad the ‘next best thing’ on the market?
In my opinion, there currently is not a firewall pad on the market that is comparable.
Does a picture of the firewall pad reveal the quality of the product?
NO. Customers need to touch, see, and use it so they can come up with their own opinions.
Will everyone love this product?
NO. My goal is exceptional customer service and the products I supply are for that purpose. I can only strive for a 100% satisfaction by everyone.

The premise of my company is to provide new, used, restored, remanufactured parts and accessories to provide a one stop shop for the restoration of the classic Mercedes Benz. My company rebuilds becker radios, reconditions steering wheels, and provides an array of discontinued parts---not just the firewall pad........

I hope we can move forward and use this forum as for it’s original purpose:
“... as a source of information relating to the Mercedes W113 cars and to help maintain, restore, exhibit, and promote the ownership and admiration of these cars among the international community of W113 enthusiasts.....”
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Re: Replica "original' firewall pads
« Reply #136 on: September 28, 2011, 04:32:47 »
I hope these pads will be available without the precut knockout for 230sl  vehicle number plates which non 230 cars won't need and which detract from authenticity.

Gus
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Re: Replica "original' firewall pads
« Reply #137 on: September 28, 2011, 04:56:44 »
Simple answer,

Yes.

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1969 MB 280SL 5 speed RHD SOLD.
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1972 MB 280CE Auto RHD 906G Blue Grey
2005 MB A200.
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Re: Replica "original' firewall pads
« Reply #138 on: September 29, 2011, 02:06:16 »
To all of you who are interested in purchasing a replicated firewall pad might be happy to learn that we have now reached a point where we can provide further details about the product and a more defined time line. To provide all members an opportunity to read the discussions that provided guidance for our initiative the topic has been moved back to the initial board and merged with another similar topic.

However, in order to better focus on the next step for the project - the purchasing phase - a new topic was started
(http://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?topic=15373) and this one will be closed.

Thank you all for your very valuable feedback!
Alfred
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1966 230SL automatic 334G light blue (sold)
1968 280SL automatic (now 904G midnight blue)