Original Kangol seatbelt mounting points?

[Alan Smithee]

Did searches here and many other places, but could not find any photos...

Can I trouble someone with a later 280SL having original carpet and factory Kangol seatbelts to post photos of the outside mounting points, both top and especially bottom?

Thank you in advance!

[rwmastel]

If I recall correctly, all Pagodas have had the same 3-point belt mounting locations since some date in 1966.  My Italian delivery 230SL with an Oct 5, 1966 build date has the mounting holes, but never any seat belts!

But, my point is that you don't need to depend on the specific references you mentioned.

[Alan Smithee]

^  As you pointed out, early cars did not necessarily come with seatbelts from the factory.  I am trying to determine factory correct mounting for belts on a US car, which I believe became law in 1967-1968...hence the request for images from a later car.

I see others have sought this in the past, but no photos in response.  There are dozens of interior shots of dozens of 'original' cars out there...lots of images of Kangol buckles, but annoyingly nobody captures the belt mounting points. 

[gorgoo]

Hello,
You have to look behind the carpet, it's at the bottom corner of the vertical wall behind the seats. If your car had never been equipped in period, you have to punch a hole in the carpet to pass the seatbelt screw (don't drill!)
Sorry, pictures do not pass!
Didier.

[Lori]

There are some pictures here
https://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?topic=13724.0

Attached is a picture from my 68 280sl.  The bottom is mounted in the side instead of the normal spot on the floor

[Alan Smithee]

Thanks, but to clarify…looking for photos of the outer seatbelt mounting points of an original car with carpet and seatbelts in place as delivered.

[Lori]

Not sure what you mean by outer?  There are 3 mount points -
#1 on the tunnel, #2 over the shoulder on the padded corner cover, #3 on the floor behind the seat in front of the parcel shelf.  Brad's pictures in the thread I linked, show all three.

[Pawel66]

Taken from the posts on this forum. You may try Search function, key in "seat belts".

I also attach factory sketch.

[Alan Smithee]

Not sure what you mean by outer?  There are 3 mount points -
#1 on the tunnel, #2 over the shoulder on the padded corner cover, #3 on the floor behind the seat in front of the parcel shelf.  Brad's pictures in the thread I linked, show all three.

Yes, well aware.  Outer being #2 and #3.  Inner being #1 on the tunnel.

You are explaining exactly why I am looking for pictures of an original car with untouched original carpet and original factory-installed belts:  From what I have gathered, factory mounting for #3 is NOT on the floor, but instead on the vertical crossmember supporting the parcel shelf as shown by Pawel66 above.  Beyond confirmation of that, I would like to see how it was finished from the factory in order to replicate it.

[Alan Smithee]

Taken from the posts on this forum. You may try Search function, key in "seat belts".

I also attach factory sketch.

Appreciated, but again looking for photos of a late original car.

[Pawel66]

There were holes in the carpet and bolts screwed in with a Dover washer. No caps, nothing special.

Maybe there are pictures on motoring investments old site, look for the Holy Grail.

[Alan Smithee]

Thanks.  Yeah, I went through almost every car on Brian's sites both new and old before posting here, and all photos of the rear areas are cropped just above the mounting point.

[rwmastel]

Can't you feel the holes beneath the carpet?  I know you can feel the shoulder mount under the upholstery.

[Alan Smithee]

Assuming mounting holes are in the body, I would like to see how it looked from the factory before cutting into brand new carpet.