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Re: big mistake... [updated: no 😇]
« Reply #75 on: July 02, 2025, 07:31:16 »
Thanks for your explanations and pics... I do NOT have those retainers...
Questions solved and... I need to get those retainers and put them to link the fork and the bearing...  ::)
« Last Edit: July 02, 2025, 08:18:02 by Figoulu »
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Re: big mistake... [updated: no 😇]
« Reply #76 on: July 02, 2025, 10:43:51 »
They should be available if I read it right...
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Re: big mistake... [updated: no 😇]
« Reply #77 on: July 02, 2025, 14:26:13 »
They should be available if I read it right...

Interesting...

I had only in mind the loop shaped ones, not the clips.
Do we need both of them because I can't clearly see how the clips goes into the assembly
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Re: big mistake... [updated: no 😇]
« Reply #78 on: July 03, 2025, 01:07:58 »
Here's a long shot for Joe or the Doctor; Is there a bolt on the left side of the engine that threads all the way into the crankcase?  If so, a bolt that's too long might be interfering. 
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Re: big mistake... [updated: no 😇]
« Reply #79 on: July 04, 2025, 09:02:31 »
They should be available if I read it right...

Hi Pawel

I looked for those parts but niemoller or sls can't provide the little circle shaped part
Any lead from your side ?
Thanks
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Re: big mistake... [updated: no 😇]
« Reply #80 on: July 04, 2025, 09:41:06 »
The circle part you are looking for is the snap ring that fits in the ball socket that the clutch fork pivots on.

I suspect it’s full of grease and you can’t see the snap ring.

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Re: big mistake... [updated: no 😇]
« Reply #81 on: July 04, 2025, 09:54:19 »
The circle part you are looking for is the snap ring that fits in the ball socket that the clutch fork pivots on.

I suspect it’s full of grease and you can’t see the snap ring.

Doug.

Good remark I'll take a look at that before ordering too fast something already inside the fork...  ::)
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Re: big mistake... [updated: no 😇]
« Reply #82 on: July 04, 2025, 14:44:24 »
Both are there at Mercedes. Yellow dots mean 72 hrs availability, I guess your place will be no different than mine. Numbers 63 and 62, you have part numbers there. One of the has changed - you have the history. Prices are in PLN, divide by 4,4 and you have them in EURO. The higher amount is with VAT.
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Re: big mistake... [updated: no 😇]
« Reply #83 on: July 04, 2025, 20:48:58 »
Both are there at Mercedes. Yellow dots mean 72 hrs availability, I guess your place will be no different than mine. Numbers 63 and 62, you have part numbers there. One of the has changed - you have the history. Prices are in PLN, divide by 4,4 and you have them in EURO. The higher amount is with VAT.
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Re: big mistake... [updated: no 😇]
« Reply #84 on: July 07, 2025, 14:20:05 »
Everything is fine... My pro has pretended that those parts weren't included when i sent him the whole stuff, but... he agreed to send me the 2 parts (clip + hook X 2) free of charge... nice move !  :D

See my mail box soon and keep you updated !
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Re: big mistake... [updated: no 😇]
« Reply #85 on: July 07, 2025, 15:19:39 »
The throwout bearing slides back and forth on the sleeve and the sleeve keeps the bearing centered on the pressure plate. On a 230SL the clutch fork "fingers" have spring retainers holding the bearing in place (see pics).

Retainer spring is not installed correctly. Should slide into a hole in the mounting sleeve.
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Re: big mistake... [updated: no 😇]
« Reply #86 on: July 07, 2025, 15:29:16 »
Retainer spring is not installed correctly. Should slide into a hole in the mounting sleeve.

Any pics / drawing to help ?
Thanks
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Re: big mistake... [updated: no 😇]
« Reply #87 on: July 07, 2025, 16:09:04 »
Any pics / drawing to help ?
Thanks

Look at the picture of the sleeve with the retainer clip. The straight end of the clip goes into a hole just behind where it is shown in the picture. You will need to unhook the 90 degree end and then find the hole where you start the clip. Clip should be installed straight end first followed by the 90 degree bend or you will probably have a very difficult time getting it to install.
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Re: big mistake... [updated: no 😇]
« Reply #88 on: July 07, 2025, 16:43:29 »
Look at the picture of the sleeve with the retainer clip. The straight end of the clip goes into a hole just behind where it is shown in the picture. You will need to unhook the 90 degree end and then find the hole where you start the clip. Clip should be installed straight end first followed by the 90 degree bend or you will probably have a very difficult time getting it to install.

Thanks
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Re: big mistake... [updated: no 😇]
« Reply #89 on: July 07, 2025, 20:40:49 »
As Dan says, those clips need to be in the fork and the bearing - there are small holes on each, on each side to receive the clip.

Do the least accessible side clip first, put the bent end of clip in back of fork then rotate bearing to get the straight end in the bearing hole. Then on the other side, rotate bearing into position, put the straight end in first into the bearing hole, then push the bent end back behind the fork and into the hole there.
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Re: big mistake... [updated: no 😇]
« Reply #90 on: July 08, 2025, 06:38:57 »
As Dan says, those clips need to be in the fork and the bearing - there are small holes on each, on each side to receive the clip.

Do the least accessible side clip first, put the bent end of clip in back of fork then rotate bearing to get the straight end in the bearing hole. Then on the other side, rotate bearing into position, put the straight end in first into the bearing hole, then push the bent end back behind the fork and into the hole there.

Very helpful, thanks ! ;)
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Re: big mistake... [updated: no 😇]
« Reply #91 on: July 20, 2025, 07:36:11 »
My parcel has arrived… just have to get back to my engine and finish the job…
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Re: big mistake... [updated: no 😇]
« Reply #92 on: July 20, 2025, 18:26:19 »
Done 😁
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Re: big mistake... [updated: no 😇]
« Reply #93 on: July 20, 2025, 18:28:39 »
And done also… 😁

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Re: big mistake... [updated: no 😇]
« Reply #94 on: July 20, 2025, 18:29:47 »
I have my birthday on July 25th who knows if it could be an happy pagoda birthday ?😅
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Re: big mistake... [updated: no 😇]
« Reply #95 on: July 20, 2025, 18:30:51 »
Well done👍🔜🏎️
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Re: big mistake... [updated: no 😇]
« Reply #96 on: July 20, 2025, 21:46:04 »
Job well done.
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Re: big mistake... [updated: no 😇]
« Reply #97 on: July 20, 2025, 22:21:54 »
Done 😁

If you installed the spring according to your picture it's still not mounted correctly.  :(
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Re: big mistake... [updated: no 😇]
« Reply #98 on: July 21, 2025, 00:22:38 »
If you installed the spring according to your picture it's still not mounted correctly.  :(
There was no hole in the bearing…
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Re: big mistake... [updated: no 😇]
« Reply #99 on: July 21, 2025, 01:48:54 »
Was it a new thrust/throwout bearing? if not it really is the time to change it with it all out. A new bearing will have the correct hole, as Dan says.
« Last Edit: July 21, 2025, 12:57:33 by clunker »
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