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Re: To paint the car or NOT ?
« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2022, 04:51:53 »
1132021benz, if you are referring to the grommets shown in the two pictures I have attached here, these grommets on our cars left the factory painted in body color.  Shown: Chassis 007749, January 1969 built.
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Re: To paint the car or NOT ?
« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2022, 03:45:59 »
If that is indeed the case,I stand corrected and apologize!

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Re: To paint the car or NOT ?
« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2022, 04:35:26 »
It a solid car. listen to your wife.  Paint it. Dont leave the hood unprotected like that. at least get it in primer. Epoxy.
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« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2022, 04:44:15 »
Dont do enamel paint.   go with a single stage AU paint and use a HVLP gun. Wear a mask!.
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Re: To paint the car or NOT ?
« Reply #29 on: August 30, 2022, 21:48:28 »
Not to everyone’s taste, but saw this MG A at an event in London and just loved that interior and engine had been restored but the rather crackled paintwork remained. Very rat rodesk 😁
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« Reply #30 on: August 30, 2022, 22:24:54 »
Katie,
I understand the rational behind this old paint.  I LOVE a pristine engine bay and a spotless  interior.  I find both, once thoroughly clean,  to be easily maintained.  And I can be a tad bit OCD about both but they are under my control.  Having paint that is less than perfect is ok by me since I drive my car and don’t want to worry about getting a scratch, dent or ding that inevitably happens and over which I have little control.  This is not to say I want my cars to look like this craquelure MG. A clean well maintained paint job with a little bit of “patina” is what I’m talking about.  If I had one of those cars with a perfect paint job, it would simply drive me crazy trying to keep it that way.
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Re: To paint the car or NOT ?
« Reply #31 on: August 31, 2022, 01:23:12 »
Paint the car. Do it properly.
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Re: To paint the car or NOT ?
« Reply #32 on: August 31, 2022, 05:30:06 »
Katie,
I understand the rational behind this old paint.  I LOVE a pristine engine bay and a spotless  interior.  I find both, once thoroughly clean,  to be easily maintained.  And I can be a tad bit OCD about both but they are under my control.  Having paint that is less than perfect is ok by me since I drive my car and don’t want to worry about getting a scratch, dent or ding that inevitably happens and over which I have little control.  This is not to say I want my cars to look like this craquelure MG. A clean well maintained paint job with a little bit of “patina” is what I’m talking about.  If I had one of those cars with a perfect paint job, it would simply drive me crazy trying to keep it that way.

I've always been fascinated by new words. Craguelure - neat word, used correctly I might add. :)
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Re: To paint the car or NOT ?
« Reply #33 on: August 31, 2022, 11:09:40 »
I've always been fascinated by new words. Craguelure - neat word, used correctly I might add. :)

Oh, are you talking about French or Italian? Should we modify the Wiki page to include German on cars? Totally fascinating. Probably the subject of a masters or doctoral thesis in art history.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craquelure
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« Reply #34 on: August 31, 2022, 11:44:15 »
German: Nockenwellenbeleuchtung, Kolbenrückholfeder....
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Re: To paint the car or NOT ?
« Reply #35 on: September 01, 2022, 23:17:38 »
Katie,
I understand the rational behind this old paint.  I LOVE a pristine engine bay and a spotless  interior.  I find both, once thoroughly clean,  to be easily maintained.  And I can be a tad bit OCD about both but they are under my control.  Having paint that is less than perfect is ok by me since I drive my car and don’t want to worry about getting a scratch, dent or ding that inevitably happens and over which I have little control.  This is not to say I want my cars to look like this craquelure MG. A clean well maintained paint job with a little bit of “patina” is what I’m talking about.  If I had one of those cars with a perfect paint job, it would simply drive me crazy trying to keep it that way.

Hi Len
I can see it both ways. In this instance, I think it’s so bad, it’s good, if that makes sense 😉. Oddly enough, if it wasn’t as bad as this, I would probably respray it! As they say, you only get that ‘patina’ or as you say ‘craquelure’ once 😁. As a well known UK antique dealer once said, what’s the difference between patina and rust? About £50!?!? 🤣🤣🤣

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Re: To paint the car or NOT ?
« Reply #36 on: September 02, 2022, 10:20:31 »
German: Nockenwellenbeleuchtung, Kolbenrückholfeder....

Interesting German words. Like many German words, absurdly long by stringing together a bunch of other words.

But the French and Italian, and also Flemish are versions or styles of craquelure; not words, used to assist in authentication of artwork from the period, and provenance.

I had suggested with tongue in cheek, that we should define a new version of craquelure to include the cracking of paint on a German car.  ;)

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Re: To paint the car or NOT ?
« Reply #37 on: September 02, 2022, 14:25:34 »
German: Nockenwellenbeleuchtung, Kolbenrückholfeder....

I've always admired the precision with which one can express an idea using six or seven syllables in German that may only take two or three syllables in another tongue.  ;^)  Perhaps they, like the French, Italian, and Flemish words, are expressing a particular version or style of craquelure?
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Re: To paint the car or NOT ?
« Reply #38 on: September 02, 2022, 16:59:24 »
I've always admired the precision with which one can express an idea using six or seven syllables in German 

That may be the reason why the official language for Mathematics is German..
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Re: To paint the car or NOT ?
« Reply #39 on: November 06, 2022, 14:17:10 »
So I had the hood and trunk painted but with patina so to match the old paint. Here are pictures

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Re: To paint the car or NOT ?
« Reply #40 on: November 06, 2022, 14:42:55 »
looks great from the pictures, and i particularly like two tone cars

I wonder if it's difficult for car sprayers to add patina?, their job is normally to achieve as blemish free job as possible, it's like distressing a repair to an antique, to make it blend in, without looking obvious

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Re: To paint the car or NOT ?
« Reply #41 on: November 06, 2022, 18:30:18 »
Well done Harold! That is really looking GREAT.
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« Reply #42 on: November 06, 2022, 19:49:15 »
I think it looks terrific too.  A few nicks and dings doesn’t bother me at all. They just indicate a car that been driven and enjoyed!  To do a proper paint job requires a Herculean effort and I question if it’s really worth it for the average owner who just wants to enjoy his car.  When I see a spectacularly restored car, I’m always impressed. For me, however, I’d be so paranoid about it that I doubt I’d get much enjoyment.  Well sorted mechanicals, a clean engine bay and interior are more important for my enjoyment than  “perfect” paintwork.  Bravo to let the painter add some touches of patina.
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« Reply #43 on: November 07, 2022, 00:50:24 »
Wunderbar!  It sounds like you're pleased with the results.  Is the lady in charge happy?
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Re: To paint the car or NOT ?
« Reply #44 on: November 22, 2022, 00:07:02 »
Oh, are you talking about French or Italian? Should we modify the Wiki page to include German on cars? Totally fascinating. Probably the subject of a masters or doctoral thesis in art history.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craquelure

The second w113 I ever looked at to buy was a dark red or burgundy '64 230SL that was craquelur.  I don't know if original paint from our period does that, or if that's indicative of a repaint.   Great word!  I'll use it around my cousin, curator in a museum.

Is the lady in charge happy?

I think that's what we all want to know!!!  And yes, the red body with black tops, interior, and hub caps is great.
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