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Re: Matti´s 280SL
« Reply #125 on: June 24, 2019, 14:59:37 »
Really good to see a spinning fan.  I hope to be there soon.

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Re: Matti´s 280SL
« Reply #126 on: June 24, 2019, 17:04:57 »
Incredible work!

W113 has got to be one of the more difficult and $$$ cars to restore.

Bravo!

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Re: Matti´s 280SL
« Reply #127 on: June 26, 2019, 03:02:50 »
phenominal work Matti. Very inspiring to see the end product look like this. gives me a little kick with my own project.
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Re: Matti´s 280SL
« Reply #128 on: June 27, 2019, 05:14:31 »
Thanks guys.
Teahead, My car was a good starting point. I bought it over ten years ago. I have bought most of the parts before "crazy prices". For example: hood emblem 36 eur vs. 313 eur today. I´m also able to do most of the work by myself. So I have spent more time than money to my project.
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Re: Matti´s 280SL
« Reply #129 on: August 26, 2019, 08:52:01 »
The weather was good yesterday so I took out  my Pagoda for Sunday drive. I drove over 80 km to places I haven´t ever been before.

BR,
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Re: Matti´s 280SL
« Reply #130 on: August 26, 2019, 17:20:39 »
Fantastic !!
Congratulations !
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Re: Matti´s 280SL
« Reply #131 on: August 26, 2019, 21:14:10 »
Matti, having admired the pictures of your Continental, this is just what I expected.  Fantastic!
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Re: Matti´s 280SL
« Reply #132 on: August 27, 2019, 03:02:14 »
Congrats matti and thanks so much for sharing. You set an extremely high standard for the rest of us to only hope to follow.

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Re: Matti´s 280SL
« Reply #133 on: August 27, 2019, 08:49:14 »
Congratulations, Matti!
Looks perfect!  :)
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Re: Matti´s 280SL
« Reply #134 on: August 27, 2019, 09:13:24 »
Thank you guys. My car is not perfect. There is a lot of details which are wrong. My car is a mix of originality and my personal taste.
I bought the trunk mat about nine years ago from SLS. I came rolled and I did not open it until now. I was pretty sure I bought a repro mat but instead of that I got a genuine one. What a nice surprise!
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Re: Matti´s 280SL
« Reply #135 on: August 27, 2019, 19:27:29 »
Great forward thinking, Matti! Trunk mat was $113.90 from Classic Center last month, with discount.
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Re: Matti´s 280SL
« Reply #136 on: August 28, 2019, 06:17:42 »
That is a very good price. Today from MB Classic Center 224,55 eur without any discount. A repro mat from SLS 303,45 eur!?!
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Re: Matti´s 280SL
« Reply #137 on: October 15, 2020, 05:17:07 »
Hello,

Not much has been happened since my last post. I bought new tires. I ordered and paid for MXV-P tires (black wall) and got MXV with white walls. What a heck! I guess the MXV-P is not available at the moment?

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Re: Matti´s 280SL
« Reply #138 on: October 16, 2020, 16:27:39 »
Great job Matt,

Look wonderful. I’m also a huge fan of 2-tone Pagoda’s.

Couldn’t help noticing that the coolant lines to the WRD ( Thermostat on top of the injection pump) are reversed. Not sure how much difference it makes to the function.

Congrats again.
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Re: Matti´s 280SL
« Reply #139 on: October 16, 2020, 16:58:06 »
Rob,
Are you sure? It looks good to me.
The higher one up goes to the long metal pipe that goes around the engine and the lower one goes to the head with a rubber hose. At least that is the way it is on mine.
Maybe I misunderstood what you are saying?
Mark
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Re: Matti´s 280SL
« Reply #140 on: October 17, 2020, 13:01:02 »
Hi Mark,

Yes I'm sure.

When I restored my Pagoda's I used John's (aka 49er) original engine bay photos as a reference.

Not sure what we would do without them!
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Re: Matti´s 280SL
« Reply #141 on: October 17, 2020, 13:15:34 »
Rob,
Very interesting !!
Nothing like a photo to get your point across.
I see I need to do some research.
Maybe there are model year differences.
When you mentioned it, I know I've read that before .... I'm gonna do some research and get back with you.
Thanks !!
Mark
1970 280 SL Automatic, USA version, Grey-Blue (906G/906G), Blue leather (245)
1968 SS396 Camaro Convertible (owned since 1977 -- my first car :D)
1984 Porsche Euro Carrera coupe, LSD, SlateBlueMet/Blue
1998 BMW M-Rdstr Estoril Blue
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Re: Matti´s 280SL
« Reply #142 on: October 17, 2020, 13:28:45 »
Your welcome Mark,

I have also read it many times in odd posts but it was easier to find the photo. Fairly certain there is no relevant model change  - it was standard on all Pagoda's.

I still see some of my friends cars with the same reversed coolant lines that don't run too badly. Others with far greater knowledge than I have can explain what the short/long term effect will be for having these coolant lines reversed.

Cheers
1969 280SL Auto RHD 906G,  H'top 387H, Parchm't
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Re: Matti´s 280SL
« Reply #143 on: October 17, 2020, 13:39:04 »
I think the coolant lines are routed differently between early and late 280sl’s. The early 280sl has what is described as a “water pipe” mounted to the block which holds the TTS. The later style is connected directly to the block.

Reversing the rubber hoses made for easier connections based on the change.
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Re: Matti´s 280SL
« Reply #144 on: October 18, 2020, 10:47:36 »
Hmmm......does make sense.
I agree for the late 280SL’s the configuration looks more orderly when reversed.

Would like to get this confirmed so l can have the arrangement correct on my 1970 280SL.

We might need to create a new post so the brains trust can chime in?
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1989 Porsche 928S4 (my daily)
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Re: Matti´s 280SL
« Reply #145 on: October 19, 2020, 01:04:11 »
When I made my comment a couple of posts ago I googled late model 280sl’s and the pictures I saw had the lower hose going to the block.

However, seeing other local late 280sl’s the lower hose is connected to the pipe going around the engine like the early models.

At this point I don’t know if they changed the order later or somebody incorrectly changed and others copied. I have seen it happen before. 🤷‍♂️
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Re: Matti´s 280SL
« Reply #146 on: October 19, 2020, 03:54:31 »
I looked at the photo of my late model 280SL before I restored it and the lower hose is going to the block. and now I am seeing several late model 280SL's (but not all) with this configuration. Who knows? :o

I might start a new post to try get to the bottom of this  - and I feel I have inadvertently hijacked Matti's post on his beautiful restoration. Apologies Matt  :)
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1969 280SL Auto RHD 906G,  H'top 387H, Parchm't
1970 280SL Man. RHD Dark Red 542G, Bamboo MB Tex
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1974 White Alfa Spider 2000
2017 Range Rover
1989 Porsche 928S4 (my daily)
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Re: Matti´s 280SL
« Reply #147 on: October 19, 2020, 05:34:42 »
Every coolant hose were replaced on my 9/69 built car when I started the project. Very few of original hose clamps were left. So it is possible that the routing is reversed.
I attached photo of 12/69 built car. Hose clamps looks original.
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Re: Matti´s 280SL
« Reply #148 on: October 19, 2020, 12:16:28 »
Thanks - I think I have seen enough late model 280SL configurations now to agree with Mrfatboy that the on the late 280SL's the lower coolant line goes to the block. I'll be changing the configuration of my 1970 280SL to suit. it does look neater. Thanks all. Rob.
1969 280SL Auto RHD 906G,  H'top 387H, Parchm't
1970 280SL Man. RHD Dark Red 542G, Bamboo MB Tex
1967 250SL Man. Tunis Beige
1974 White Alfa Spider 2000
2017 Range Rover
1989 Porsche 928S4 (my daily)
1967 Alfa Spider ("Duetto") Red
1977 Yellow 911 Porsche Targa
1991 Nissan Figaro
1959 190SL Black