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Inside firewall pads - who needs them?
« on: November 14, 2011, 05:35:28 »
Since we had several requests for these pads on the inside firewall we are contemplating whether to produce those also.
We do have the MB specification drawing and therefore can produce an exact die.  However, these pads are large (about 21' x 21") and since a roll of material is 36" x 96" there would be quite a bit of "scrap" material, which however could be used to cut strips for the trunks (all three together = about 15" x 21").
Furthermore, we need to deal with the fact that the driver side pad for automatic and manual shift cars is different although similar. This can be solved by cutting the pattern for the manual shift cars only in the backing material and not in the front layer, just like we did with VIN plate cut out for the engine compartment pads.

So here is the question. How many of you would buy a set of inside pads (both driver and passenger side) with felt backing at a price of $125 plus shipping?  This price reflects that more material is required, dies are more expensive, and the volume is lower.

A set of three trunk strips would cost $45 but these would come without any backing material.

Here are links to photos (http://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?topic=15458.0) to show you what we have in mind:
Passenger side:
http://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=15458.0;attach=12928;image
Driver side manual car:
http://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=15458.0;attach=12866;image
Driver side automatic car:
http://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=15458.0;attach=12868;image

Trunk strips: see attached photo


 
« Last Edit: November 14, 2011, 05:42:07 by 66andBlue »
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Re: Inside firewall pads - who needs them?
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2011, 05:52:57 »
Alfred,
I understand that you have a limited supply of material so it might be prudent to produce these last after you've filled all your orders. The inside pads, while nice to have, are also mostly unseen with carpeting covering them, so I'm not sure you would want to use up a limited supply of material like that. If you can get more material, or have someone make it for you, then by all means make everything you can.

 Just my opinion and I'm sure there will be other ideas concerning this.
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Re: Inside firewall pads - who needs them?
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2011, 06:08:45 »
Hi Dan,
you have a point but I have just ordered the last 28 rolls of the material that should give us enough to satisfy the RHD demand and another round of LHD pads.   But you are correct those inside ones will be made only after everyone here had a chance to get the one for the engine compartment.
My calculations are based on only 20 inside pad sets which should yield about 30 trunk sets from the left over material.
Now you know all my secrets!  ;)
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Re: Inside firewall pads - who needs them?
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2011, 08:10:53 »
Hello Alfred,

I would take 2 sets of
- inside pads
- trunk strips

Thanks,
Claudia

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Re: Inside firewall pads - who needs them?
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2011, 08:43:31 »
Alfred, Please add me to your list.

2 sets foot well

2 trunk

1 firewall pad

Thanks

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Re: Inside firewall pads - who needs them?
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2011, 08:44:42 »
I would like a set of internal firewall pads and trunk pads.
So my total order is 1 set of everything: firewall pad, internal pads, trunk pads, to fit 1965 left hand drive 230sl.
Thanks.
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Re: Inside firewall pads - who needs them?
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2011, 10:23:08 »
Hi, Alfred,

2 sets for the trunk please.

Thanks
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Re: Inside firewall pads - who needs them?
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2011, 11:32:01 »
Hi Alfred:

1 Inside pad set

2 Trunk sets

Thanks
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Re: Inside firewall pads - who needs them?
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2011, 12:52:12 »
Alfred,

I'd like a set of insdie pads along with the trunk strips.

George

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Re: Inside firewall pads - who needs them?
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2011, 16:12:31 »
Hello Alfred, I will take one set for driver and passenger side and the trunk.  May thanks.
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Re: Inside firewall pads - who needs them?
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2011, 17:19:29 »
Add me to the list!

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Re: Inside firewall pads - who needs them?
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2011, 18:24:05 »
Dear Alfred,

Please count me in for two interior sets and one trunk strip set.

Thank you so much,

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Re: Inside firewall pads - who needs them?
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2011, 18:39:24 »
Hi Alfred,
Please put me down for a set of trunk strips if they become available.
All the best
Andy
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Re: Inside firewall pads - who needs them?
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2011, 18:49:00 »
Alfred,
Please count me in for a set of trunk strips.
Thank you !
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Re: Inside firewall pads - who needs them?
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2011, 17:55:13 »
Inside set yes
Trunk set yes

(already on the list for the firewall set...)
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Re: Inside firewall pads - who needs them?
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2011, 18:03:40 »
Mine look different than the firewall pad.  Possibly not original?
Enjoy some pictures at this link:
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Re: Inside firewall pads - who needs them?
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2011, 18:13:37 »
No, John, yours are original! But they are also NLA.
Mercedes installed two types of strips in these cars.
The waffle-patterned strips were mostly in 230SL cars and the ones you have in later cars but I believe that Tom Colitt also has seen later cars with the waffle pattern. Perhaps he'll chime in here.
Perhaps the point is since both types are NLA from Mercedes why not replace them, if necessary, with one that at least is original for some types of W113.

Looking at your photo, could you take a measuring tape and let us know the dimensions of the small reactangles/squares that hold down the wire cable, please?
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Re: Inside firewall pads - who needs them?
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2011, 18:23:09 »
Good to know.  I'll be happy to measure.  My footwell pads are like the firewall.
Enjoy some pictures at this link:
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Re: Inside firewall pads - who needs them?
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2011, 01:36:58 »
Jeez, what a production.  Out with the tire, then the wheel chock, then the cocomat, then the rubber mat.  Anyway, promised and delivered.  There are four pads covering the wire.  Three, actually had a hint of the firewall pad (maybe compressed after all these years) and the one in the upper left looks like the material the three long ones are.  The four wire pads are all the same size  118.98 X 79.51 mm.  Pics attached showing size and location.
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Re: Inside firewall pads - who needs them?
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2011, 02:24:28 »
Hi John,
thanks a million your efforts, they are much appreciated!
Shall I send you a set of these four pads from the scraps?

( I had hoped that the strips would be a bit narrower.  Unfortunately the cut out for the fuse box is only 72mm wide but long enough, and we have plenty of those)
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Re: Inside firewall pads - who needs them?
« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2011, 03:41:44 »
Bummer on the fuse box cutout not matching.  7 mm difference would be noticeable.  Yes, I'll gladly take a set, but I'm deciding on whether to get floor pad too.  Thanks for the offer.

John
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Re: Inside firewall pads - who needs them?
« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2011, 06:24:13 »
Alfred,
Given all the variations all over these cars, it would not surprise me if there were different sizes for those trunk pieces in other cars so would not be scrapping the cutout just yet.

Johns material certainly looks like the same material that has over tome lost the stamping marks.

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Re: Inside firewall pads - who needs them?
« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2011, 19:52:00 »
Alfred,

If you have a shipment coming to the UK and I can get in on it (no hurry!!), I'd like a set of boot material and an interior set, please. LHD auto car.

Many thanks,

James
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Re: Inside firewall pads - who needs them?
« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2011, 06:35:26 »
Hi Alfred,

I am interested in an inside set as well, LHD car w/manual transmission. Thanks.

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Re: Inside firewall pads - who needs them?
« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2011, 17:36:34 »
Hi,

I will need one trunk set and one inside firewall set.  I already received my engine compartment firewall pad -- great, prompt service!!

RH