3 point belts

[opopotts]

My 1961 1961 220  SE coupe has old lap belts which I want to change to 3 point belts Is there an anchor point on the early coupes for a metal bracket under the leather to attach an anchor?
Thanks
Opopotts

[wwheeler]

Are you talking about the threaded sleeve that is on the upper door panel at the rear quarter window? If so, it would be below the panel cap. That cap can be easily removed. It is held on by one screw in the chrome strip at the rear and (2) push clips. Will also have to remove the upper chrome plate on the door jam facing the rear. I can't remember the the rear seat back has to be removed also.

I can snap a picture later today of what it looks like.

[opopotts]

Yes Please . So that fastener was hidden on the early Models?
Doug

[wwheeler]

Here is the anchor. It is simply welded on the steel rail. Then a hole is put in the cap frame and leather. It could be under the cap, not sure when that was done and maybe if an option.

You can see the two slots where the clips fit into that are mounted on the cap. The clips are part number #002 988 45 78.   https://www.authenticclassics.com/DOOR-TRIM-RAIL-MOUNTING-CLIP-FITS-100-107-108ch-p/auth-009259.htm

[thomasw]

Here is the anchor. It is simply welded on the steel rail. Then a hole is put in the cap frame and leather. It could be under the cap, not sure when that was done and maybe if an option.

You can see the two slots where the clips fit into that are mounted on the cap. The clips are part number #002 988 45 78.   https://www.authenticclassics.com/DOOR-TRIM-RAIL-MOUNTING-CLIP-FITS-100-107-108ch-p/auth-009259.htm

Wallace, i also have a 220 SE coupe bit this was delivered in june 1961, i read somewhere that my car does not have this welded anchor point. Is there some reinforcement under the tube?
And how did you do with the roller end? Is it hidden under the side panel?

Thomas
W128 4-door & W111 2-door

[wwheeler]

The tube is welded on the steel rail. No reinforcement that I see. The leather covered cap that fits on top of the side panel is about 1/8" or so above the top of the tube when installed so the tube is not visible. There is a hole (opening) in the cap that aligns with the tube. Hopefully that helps. 

[thomasw]

Thanks!
Thomas

[wwheeler]

I'll take a picture tonight. The hole in the cap is about 7" to the rear of the cap's leading edge..

[wwheeler]

Gives you an idea of the hole for the 3 point seat belt mount in the rear. Mine had that from the factory and of course in Kangol.

[opopotts]

I am going to take my panel off next week to see if I have the stud. It currently has lap belts