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Pagoda Expert in Padova, Italy
« on: October 11, 2021, 13:32:57 »
Hello all
I am looking for a Pagoda expert in the region of Padova Italy to verify a restored car.
Kindly private message me with contact details.
Thank you

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Re: Pagoda Expert in Padova, Italy
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2021, 14:33:48 »
Members here and experts are two different things. Not all members are experts, and not all experts are members. Further, amongst those member who are experts or close to it, many of them are more familiar with the specific model that they have, as opposed to the full line of W113.

We have just 37 members in Italy. Of those 37, 13 are full, paid members, and 24 are associate members, not paid. Of all 37 members in Italy, 25 have never made a posting.  Only 7 have made more than 10 posts. None appear to be in nearby Venice, or Padova I'm afraid.

If you are on Facebook the Mercedes-Benz Club d'Italia has a Facebook page/group; you may inquire there. https://www.facebook.com/mercedesbenzclubitalia
Their website is: https://www.mercedesbenzclub.it  They do have a forum, but I don't know how active that forum is, where their members are located or if anyone can help--but if you speak Italian it may be worth an inquiry to the website, forum, and Facebook pages to see if anyone can help you.
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Re: Pagoda Expert in Padova, Italy
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2021, 14:53:25 »

We have just 37 members in Italy. Of those 37, 13 are full, paid members, and 24 are associate members, not paid.

I think it will be quite interesting information get such statistic about the numbers of the members in this forum with the split to the countries. Is this possible without any big effort?
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Re: Pagoda Expert in Padova, Italy
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2021, 15:11:39 »
I think it will be quite interesting information get such statistic about the numbers of the members in this forum with the split to the countries. Is this possible without any big effort?

I don't know if because I'm a board member, I see anything different than regular full members or not.

But, all I did was go to the members tab, search for members, tick the location box, add Italy and there was a page of Italian members.
The detail is presented on the page. Yes I had to count by hand the full/associate, and look at the number of posts, etc.
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Re: Pagoda Expert in Padova, Italy
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2021, 15:59:43 »
Many thanks for the explanation.
It will be to complicated to count it by hand.
I think, that also You as a board prepare a kind of annual report.
May be there once a year it could be an interesting point to prepare such statistic?
To know the total number of active members with the different split for instance to each country (I do not know how the record is build in the data base). Compared to the former year you will get the trend.
Of course you will get many other interesting information's. May be this is already done? I do not know where to look for the annual reports?

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Re: Pagoda Expert in Padova, Italy
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2021, 12:43:35 »
Many thanks for the explanation.
It will be to complicated to count it by hand.
I think, that also You as a board prepare a kind of annual report.
May be there once a year it could be an interesting point to prepare such statistic?

Ah, yes. "you as a board should____" (fill in the blank with what is on your mind today.

As if some of us don't have enough to do already!

We do prepare annual reports. Maybe those on the membership side of things may see some usefulness for this additional task.

It took me but a few minutes to do this for Italy. What would be challenging is for the larger countries.
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Re: Pagoda Expert in Padova, Italy
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2021, 15:58:35 »
Michael!
I do not know how the list was made, but if you do not have count it by hand I can help you with this? I think the result will be very interesting
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Re: Pagoda Expert in Padova, Italy
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2021, 11:34:14 »
It's quite easy to do for me as an admin. However, I cannot give you an accurate history (for the past) but I could for the future. The query is:

select distinct country, count(*) as members, count(if(activemember=1, 1, NULL)) AS full
from smf_members
group by country
order by country


And the result is:
CountryMembersFull Members
80
Aland Islands10
Argentina42
Australia11758
Austria103
Bahamas11
Bahrain20
Belgium5222
Bermuda11
Bosnia and Herzegovina21
Brazil30
Bulgaria21
Canada13178
Chile10
Colombia22
Costa Rica31
Country20
Croatia30
Cyprus41
Czech Republic72
Denmark2411
Ecuador10
England22
Finland1411
France7236
Germany11129
Greece62
Guernsey22
Hong Kong53
Hungary71
Iceland10
India40
Indonesia30
Ireland198
Israel31
Italy3713
Japan125
Jordan21
Kenya20
Kuwait33
Latvia21
Lebanon30
Lithuania31
Luxembourg32
Macedonia11
Malaysia63
Malta84
Mexico75
Moldova10
Namibia10
Netherlands5228
New Caledonia11
New Zealand168
Norway2716
Pakistan20
Philippines50
Poland5117
Portugal257
Qatar21
Reunion11
Romania54
Russia73
Saudi Arabia10
Scotland11
Serbia10
Serbia and Montenegro11
Singapore74
Slovakia71
Slovenia31
South Africa177
Spain318
Sri Lanka10
Sweden4326
Switzerland145
Thailand72
Turkey51
United Arab Emirates147
United Kingdom239112
United States Minor Outlying Islands10
USA1370749
Venezuela11
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Re: Pagoda Expert in Padova, Italy
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2021, 12:14:26 »
Many thanks Peter! Now we have a quite good picture.
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Re: Pagoda Expert in Padova, Italy
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2021, 14:22:48 »
The picture isn't completely clear from that, in my opinion. Look at the further breakdown on postings I provided for Italy.

You need to further break down the membership to those that have made postings. Even full members with no posts probably visit the site very little. I can tell you from experience with the book and other projects that these "lurkers" so to speak, don't often pay attention to emails, either. They don't contribute much and if they don't visit, not sure what they get out of it either, other than the magazine. No different than many clubs and most forums.

On the other hand, from my experience with "Pagoda Style" which sold out very quickly at the MB Museum Gift Shop, as well as Amazon and eBay, there are far more people that love these cars for some reason, than are members of any kind here. Most books went to non-members. So, plenty of Pagoda lovers and owners around the world that may not be members here.
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Re: Pagoda Expert in Padova, Italy
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2021, 17:32:01 »
For the sake of having everything a tiny bit more correct, you may want to ask the one member from "Scotland" and the two members from "England" why they decided to list their location NOT as United Kingdom and thus be included in that total... ::)
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Re: Pagoda Expert in Padova, Italy
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2021, 18:15:27 »
I took the list and looked at Full Members only and made myself a little bar chart for a better visual image of where our Full Members are. Surprising to me, Germany, where the car is from, has quite a few members, but ranks way down in Full membership
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Re: Pagoda Expert in Padova, Italy
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2021, 09:07:07 »
I took the list and looked at Full Members only and made myself a little bar chart for a better visual image of where our Full Members are. Surprising to me, Germany, where the car is from, has quite a few members, but ranks way down in Full membership

For me this statistic was also a big surprise regarding Germany and such small number of members.
Few weeks ago I presented a statistic from KBA (Federal Motor Vehicle Office) regarding the number of registered Pagodas in Germany - per 1.01.2021 it was 4.686 Pagodas. This show the potential of the market. All of us know, that the real number is much higher than this ( including: projects, cars in restoration and cars in collection and dealers showrooms).

In my opinion there are at least two reasons, why so little members are here from Germany:
1. Very strong local forum- Pagodentreff.de,
2. Communication problem.

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Re: Pagoda Expert in Padova, Italy
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2021, 10:24:31 »
Surprising to me also that the UK has the second largest membership by some way considering the size of the country. I guess the English and Scottish listed are just very patriotic.

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Re: Pagoda Expert in Padova, Italy
« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2021, 13:57:08 »
It's quite easy to do for me as an admin. However, I cannot give you an accurate history (for the past) but I could for the future.


Hello Peter
it is easy also to get a sum of this two column? This will give us a total sum of the members and more or less active members.
Thank you in advance!
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Re: Pagoda Expert in Padova, Italy
« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2021, 14:43:56 »
Sebastian: You can copy the two columns into an Excel spreadsheet and total them.
2671   Members   1330 Full Members
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Re: Pagoda Expert in Padova, Italy
« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2021, 15:59:18 »
Mike! Many thanks!
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Re: Pagoda Expert in Padova, Italy
« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2021, 10:54:08 »
For many more statistics, updated live: https://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?action=stats
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Re: Pagoda Expert in Padova, Italy
« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2021, 15:57:18 »
Thank you Peter! Quite sophisticated! :)
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Re: Pagoda Expert in Padova, Italy
« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2021, 22:07:12 »
Our Male to Female ratio is 99.6:1 (!).

We need to do something about EDI (equity, diversity and inclusion)

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Re: Pagoda Expert in Padova, Italy
« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2021, 23:05:28 »
Our Male to Female ratio is 99.6:1 (!).

We need to do something about EDI (equity, diversity and inclusion)

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Why?  ;D
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