Author Topic: Wheel rim colour?  (Read 5146 times)

cfm65@me.com

  • Associate Member
  • Gold
  • *****
  • Mossel Bay, South Africa
  • Posts: 702
Wheel rim colour?
« on: April 22, 2021, 14:58:18 »
Hi Guys,
Please confirm the steel wheels rims on the 190SL and Pagodas should be black.
Thanks
Chris
28 Ford Model A Pickup
29 Chevy Phaeton
67 E Type FHC
67 250SL 5 speed
83 911SC
2015 VW T5 California Pop Top

Mike Hughes

  • Full Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • USA, VA, Blue Grass
  • Posts: 1718
Re: Wheel rim colour?
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2021, 15:16:57 »
Can't speak for 190's, but for 230 and 250 SLs, which have two-piece wheel trim in the form of center caps and trim rings, the steel wheels are painted body color. 
- Mike Hughes  -ô¿ô-
  1966 230SL Auto P/S
  Havana Brown (408)
  Light Beige (181)
  Cream M-B Tex (121)

GM

  • Associate Member
  • Gold
  • *****
  • USA, CA, San Pedro
  • Posts: 565
Re: Wheel rim colour?
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2021, 15:48:08 »
See attached
Gary
1971 280SL - Sold
(98 from the end of production)
DB180 Silver Gray Metallic
Black MB Tex

Jonny B

  • Pagoda SL Board
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • USA, CA, San Marcos
  • Posts: 4115
Re: Wheel rim colour?
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2021, 16:04:15 »
For the 190 SL - check with 190SLgroup.com they should have the information you are looking for.
Jonny B
1967 250 SL Auto, DB 568
1970 280 SL Auto, DB 904
1966 Morris Mini Minor

lreppond

  • Full Member
  • Gold
  • *****
  • USA, CA, San Leandro
  • Posts: 609
Re: Wheel rim colour?
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2021, 16:30:05 »
The 300SL models had their wheels painted the same as the body color.  Not certain if the roadster models used the color of the hardtop if different than the body. I would guess the 190’s would have been treated in the same manner.  I believe when the w113’s switched to full hubcaps, that’s when all wheels were painted black. 
« Last Edit: April 22, 2021, 16:39:31 by lreppond »
~Len

1971 280 SL
576G red/251 Beige
4 speed manual
Family owned since new (father —> son)

Vander

  • Full Member
  • Silver
  • ****
  • USA, OH, Columbus
  • Posts: 352
Re: Wheel rim colour?
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2021, 17:14:35 »
Here is a set of 190SL wheels I just did a few weeks ago. 190SL are body color on the outside (my car is white) and dark green on the inside. The outside body color is full gloss, and the dark green is a primer/matte finish.
1969 280SL

Benz Dr.

  • Vendor
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • Canada, ON, Port Lambton
  • Posts: 7137
  • Benz Dr.
Re: Wheel rim colour?
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2021, 18:23:42 »
190SL is always body color. Inside of the rim is probably army surplus green. 
1966 230SL 5 speed, LSD, header pipes, 300SE distributor, ported, polished and balanced, AKA  ''The Red Rocket ''
Dan Caron's SL Barn

1970  3.5 Coupe
1961  190SL
1985   300CD  Turbo Coupe
1981  300SD
2013  GMC  Sierra
1965  230SL
1967 250SL
1970 280SL
1988 560SEC

neelyrc

  • Full Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • USA, AL, Birmingham
  • Posts: 1209
Re: Wheel rim colour?
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2021, 02:46:44 »
Hi Guys,
Please confirm the steel wheels rims on the 190SL and Pagodas should be black.
Thanks
Chris

Chris,
Wheels for my Pagoda - 280SL (007749) including spare, are black, not body color.  I believe the wheel color changed to black when the full wheel covers were initiated.
Ralph

1969 280SL, 4 Speed Manual, Dark Olive (291H), Parchment Leather (256), Dark Green Soft Top (747)
1972 Mercedes-Benz 280SEL 4.5
1988 Mercedes-Benz 560SL
2007 BMW 328xi (E90)
Italy
2004 Toyota HiLux D4D Pickup
2008 BMW 330xd Futura Coupe' (E92)

Pawel66

  • Full Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • Poland, Mazowieckie, Konstancin-Jeziorna
  • Posts: 5181
Re: Wheel rim colour?
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2021, 05:54:29 »
There is a comprehensive study and manual for colours used on 190sl.

As for wheels I have:
- rims outside is body colour
- rims inside is black or dark green
- cups inside DB158
- cups outside is hard top colour

Hub cup change in Pagoda and start of black rims happened at 113044 0 00045 as far as I can see in parts list.
Pawel

280SL 1970 automatic 180G Silver
W128 220SE
W121 190SL
G-class

stickandrudderman

  • Vendor
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • United Kingdom, England, Richmond
  • Posts: 2815
    • http://www.colinferns.com
Re: Wheel rim colour?
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2021, 08:45:29 »
It's simple:
If you have two-piece wheel trims then your wheels should be body coloured.
If you have one piece wheel trims then your wheels should be black.

ejboyd5

  • Associate Member
  • Gold
  • *****
  • Southold, NY
  • Posts: 503
Re: Wheel rim colour?
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2021, 11:25:17 »
Not certain if the roadster models used the color of the hardtop if different than the body.
300 SL Roadster wheels were painted body color or, if specially ordered, fully chromed.

Mike Hughes

  • Full Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • USA, VA, Blue Grass
  • Posts: 1718
Re: Wheel rim colour?
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2021, 11:41:12 »
Updating my previous post, the outside of my rims are painted body color (408 Havana Brown) and the inside of the rims are all painted black.  So it may be safe to say that the wheels come to the assembly plant from the supplier painted black, and the factory painted the outside of the rims to match the body color of the car to which they would be mated during the era when two-piece wheel trim was the norm.  Once the one piece full wheel cover was adopted, it was no longer necessary to perform this step, which cost saving likely made the bean-counters very happy indeed!
- Mike Hughes  -ô¿ô-
  1966 230SL Auto P/S
  Havana Brown (408)
  Light Beige (181)
  Cream M-B Tex (121)

cfm65@me.com

  • Associate Member
  • Gold
  • *****
  • Mossel Bay, South Africa
  • Posts: 702
Re: Wheel rim colour?
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2021, 12:16:49 »
Thank you Gents,
Much appreciated.
Take care.
Chris
Cape Town
28 Ford Model A Pickup
29 Chevy Phaeton
67 E Type FHC
67 250SL 5 speed
83 911SC
2015 VW T5 California Pop Top