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Picture of original power antenna above the fender?
« on: April 07, 2020, 12:39:28 »
Does anyone have a picture of an original Hirschman power antenna above the fender.  I just need to see what the chrome bezel and not look like.

Thanks in advance,
Pat


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Re: Picture of original power antenna above the fender?
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2020, 13:14:02 »
Hirschmann power antenna W113. Angle rearwards some 20 degrees. Wand length 1100mm (1,1 metres)

Original Hirschmann designation for the W113 Pagoda is Auta 6000 F58
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Re: Picture of original power antenna above the fender?
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2020, 13:30:09 »
Thanks Hans!
I found a slightly later antenna and I wanted to see how close I was.  I think it is a pretty good match.

I need to make a bracket for the inside so when I pull it out I can get a model number.

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Re: Picture of original power antenna above the fender?
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2020, 13:54:29 »
Just a side note; of course these metal housing original type power antennas are very rare now.

A working option if you would like to install a power antenna in your SL today would be the Hirschmann 6000 KE
or perhaps a HIT Auta 2050; these have plastic housings
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Re: Picture of original power antenna above the fender?
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2020, 17:35:04 »
Hans,
Thanks for the information.  The one I found is from a R107 is a pretty close match to the original and exponentially more available. I had to rewire it internally and build a bracket and harness for it but i think it looks pretty good.
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Re: Picture of original power antenna above the fender?
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2020, 21:26:02 »
What is the model number of the antenna that you got out of a R107?
If you want to listen mostly to FM stations then it would be nice if this antenna has a length limiter that you can adjust to extend not more than about 35 inches.
See: https://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?topic=13698.msg93011#msg93011
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Re: Picture of original power antenna above the fender?
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2020, 22:57:52 »
Alfred,
It is a 481.  5 wire plug. In Auto mode it was short maybe 18” so I bypassed the first stop so now it is closer to 48”.  It would be tough to get 36” because the mechanism is dependent on a fairly complex mechanical cam.  I hardly ever turn the radio on anyway.  That’s what the Land Rover is for.   

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Re: Picture of original power antenna above the fender?
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2020, 07:25:14 »
Hi,
this Hirschmann antenna AUTA 6000U (types 481/2-485/6) where specially "export type installation ex car factory" for R107, W116, W123 and S123 until 7/83.
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Re: Picture of original power antenna above the fender?
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2020, 03:27:27 »
interesting,  I can't believe how the prices have gone up.  I think I paid $60 for mine a few years ago.  R107's are really common.  I guess this is a case where you find one in a local junk yard.

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Re: Picture of original power antenna above the fender?
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2020, 14:17:06 »
Original Hirschmann in my 190 SL.  Works like a champ and radio surprising clear and able to be heard with its single speaker.
Enjoy some pictures at this link:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/8292359@N06/sets/72157603240571101/show/

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Re: Picture of original power antenna above the fender?
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2020, 22:42:30 »
Nice John!

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Re: Picture of original power antenna above the fender?
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2020, 01:43:25 »
Hans,
Thanks for the information.  The one I found is from a R107 is a pretty close match to the original and exponentially more available. I had to rewire it internally and build a bracket and harness for it but i think it looks pretty good.
Hi Pat,
do you have a drawing with dimensions of the bracket that you made?
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Re: Picture of original power antenna above the fender?
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2020, 21:24:42 »
Alfred,
Just saw this.  I will sketch it out. 

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Re: Picture of original power antenna above the fender?
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2020, 20:52:39 »
Alfred,
Here are some pictures.  The bracket has 2 little 1/4” spacers I turned on my lathe to keep it from bending the lip
Of the hole you slide the antenna through.  These could easily just be a stack of washers.  3/4” x 1/8” flat stock one piece 2-1/2” long and one 8” long.  If you are thinking of doing this I may have a photo of the internal wiring modifications.

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Re: Picture of original power antenna above the fender?
« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2020, 17:49:06 »
Thanks Pat, looks very nice.
Did you tilt the antenna by about  20° or straight up?

Looking at your wiring pictures I believe you used a 3-wire hook up which gives you full up or full down. Is that correct?
My antenna came with the 5-pin connector which allows the partial extension of the telescope when combined with the appropriate switch. I am planning to use this version and hide the switch in the ashtray. Here is the wiring diagram.

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Re: Picture of original power antenna above the fender?
« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2020, 18:26:50 »
Alfred,
Just saw this.  The R107 antenna has it's own tilt built in.  I am guessing it is close to 20 degrees.  You are correct I modified the antenna wiring internally to provide power, ground and trigger which provided up with +12v and down when the +12 is taken away.  I will dig out my pictures and see if I have it in case anyone else wants to do this.   
« Last Edit: November 09, 2020, 00:39:24 by Shvegel »