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Re: I rolled my pagoda last night...
« Reply #175 on: February 22, 2020, 04:50:00 »
Thanks Fernando!
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Re: I rolled my pagoda last night...
« Reply #176 on: February 22, 2020, 12:02:08 »
Looks great, Johm. Better than I expected. And I don't want to take any credit for "talking you into". I didn't think I had to. Glad you are happy with it. They do a great job.
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Re: I rolled my pagoda last night...
« Reply #177 on: February 27, 2020, 00:58:53 »
So the engine and transmission are finally ready to go in this weekend from the bottom up. Yea!
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John Krystowski
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Re: I rolled my pagoda last night...
« Reply #178 on: February 29, 2020, 16:19:41 »
The intake manifold will have to be removed.  Looks great though...
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Re: I rolled my pagoda last night...
« Reply #179 on: February 29, 2020, 19:26:30 »
John,

I've been saving my praise till the end of your project.  You have my deepest respect.  This will be a show car.  Worthy of Amelia.  It absolutely looks amazing.  Color is perfect too.  Crap, now I feel inadequate.

Congratulations.

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Re: I rolled my pagoda last night...
« Reply #180 on: March 01, 2020, 03:37:40 »
The intake manifold will have to be removed.  Looks great though...

Thanks Brad

Yes the manifolds are just loose. everything on the front of the engine can't go on until I weld the exhaust together. I'm using the big bracket for the AC which means exhaust first, then exhaust manifold with the big bracket, then I can do the water pump, fan blade, etc.
John Krystowski
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Re: I rolled my pagoda last night...
« Reply #181 on: March 01, 2020, 04:27:35 »
John,

I've been saving my praise till the end of your project.  You have my deepest respect.  This will be a show car.  Worthy of Amelia.  It absolutely looks amazing.  Color is perfect too.  Crap, now I feel inadequate.

Congratulations.

Mike

Thanks Mike. I had to chuckle reading yours consider how  beautiful your green pagoda is.

John Krystowski
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Re: I rolled my pagoda last night...
« Reply #182 on: March 28, 2020, 00:43:15 »
It’s tax and year end time so not much Pagoda time lately. Plus I’m just not exited about heating up the barn when it’s 20 degrees out. Anyways I finally got the engine in last weekend. Ok to the Front suspension tomorrow. Any tips on getting the springs in will be greatly appreciated though!
John Krystowski
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Re: I rolled my pagoda last night...
« Reply #183 on: March 29, 2020, 21:55:26 »
Search the forum for spring install tips.
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Re: I rolled my pagoda last night...
« Reply #184 on: March 30, 2020, 01:46:04 »
Search the forum for spring install tips.

Thanks frank.  I actually stopped by autozone and borrowed a spring compressor that hooks from inside of the spring. just might work.
John Krystowski
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Re: I rolled my pagoda last night...
« Reply #185 on: March 30, 2020, 02:09:29 »
I finished ceramic
Coating my TimeValve exhaust today taking advantage of a rare 70 degree weekend here. I outgassed the exhaust in my home grill, prepped the surface and sprayed today.

I’m going to install with clamps for now as I don’t have a lift. I can get it on a lift later to have the joints welded. 
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Re: I rolled my pagoda last night...
« Reply #186 on: March 30, 2020, 03:25:51 »
Hi John, I see by your photo, that TimeValve is still welding the connector pipes in backwards. I always have them ship them to me separate so I can weld them on correctly. Not that big a deal I guess.
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Re: I rolled my pagoda last night...
« Reply #187 on: March 30, 2020, 12:35:47 »
Hi Joe,

Good to hear from you. Yes unfortunately I read you previous post about that after I ordered and received the system.

John
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Re: I rolled my pagoda last night...
« Reply #188 on: March 30, 2020, 13:17:33 »
Exhaust system W113 (made by Gillet; OEM)
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Re: I rolled my pagoda last night...
« Reply #189 on: March 30, 2020, 14:25:23 »
Is it the long awaited new production for 280SL?
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Re: I rolled my pagoda last night...
« Reply #190 on: March 30, 2020, 14:57:28 »
Quote from: Pawel66
Is it the long awaited new production for 280SL?
I bought this from Mercedes (and fitted it to my SL), some 5 years ago.

See for instance: https://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?topic=24399.msg174512#msg174512
« Last Edit: March 30, 2020, 15:02:50 by mbzse »
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Re: I rolled my pagoda last night...
« Reply #191 on: March 30, 2020, 15:37:10 »
The last  exhaust on my 280SL I had installed in Germany 35 years ago by my Mercedes dealer. It was an Eberspächer. It was welded on a gauge. It will have to be replaced before the car goes back on the road. I would very much like to have a unit that is being "clamped" rather than welded AND be made of stainless steel. Is there anything like that out there in the U.S.?
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Re: I rolled my pagoda last night...
« Reply #192 on: March 30, 2020, 16:33:16 »
I would very much like to have a unit that is being "clamped" rather than welded AND be made of stainless steel. Is there anything like that out there in the U.S.?

TimeValve
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Re: I rolled my pagoda last night...
« Reply #193 on: March 30, 2020, 16:34:48 »
The TimeValve system is made so it can be clamped or welded.
Joe Alexander
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Re: I rolled my pagoda last night...
« Reply #194 on: March 30, 2020, 23:10:01 »
So is the only advantage of welding to make it look more original?
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Re: I rolled my pagoda last night...
« Reply #195 on: March 30, 2020, 23:28:32 »
John: I am looking at clamping because of the easier DIY way to install and take off. Of all of the cars I ever owned, the SL is the only one that has a welded exhaust and I do not like it. The rear muffler is the one most prone to rust and it would be easy and less costly to replace it separately from the rest. I have no plans to sell the car as close to original as possible and it does not matter to me. Besides, welding of a part as an exhaust has some issues I try not to have on the car.
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Re: I rolled my pagoda last night...
« Reply #196 on: March 31, 2020, 04:57:58 »
Installing a welded system is obviously more difficult than a clamp system. I did it on my W111 and it was a pain. If it is a stainless welded system, you shouldn't have to worry about replacing parts of it. But I don't really see any other advantage of welding other than appearance.
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Re: I rolled my pagoda last night...
« Reply #197 on: March 31, 2020, 06:23:19 »
I bought this from Mercedes (and fitted it to my SL), some 5 years ago.


I see, thank you. I asked about the new one a couple of weeks ago and information I had was that it went beck for corrections again.
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Re: I rolled my pagoda last night...
« Reply #198 on: April 01, 2020, 03:06:02 »
So while I am quarantined during the week I have been plating some of the parts I missed in the cadmium batch in my basement. These may be a bit too yellow. I can redo them if they look out of place on the car.

I wasted money and time starting with the plating solution from my local Eastwood store. It’s too small of a portion to use effectively plus it wouldn’t take yellow chromate or a brightening solution. Much better when I switched to the Caswell solution. Schvegel was a big help in coaching me through the process. Now its fun to do but I ran out of items to plate.
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Re: I rolled my pagoda last night...
« Reply #199 on: April 01, 2020, 16:01:51 »
I did the Eastwood route awhile back ago and it is adequate at best. It is not a true zinc plate and yes, will not accept chromate. I then bought the Caswell kit and has been working wonderfully ever since. Caswell has many colors of chromate, yellow, clear, black and even olive drab. They also have a solution called Zincate which allows you to zinc plate aluminum. Normally you cannot plate aluminum because it oxidizes so quickly. This solution applies a sacrificially coating on it while it is cleaned in mild acid. Works great.

BTW, I know Schvegel plated his BC, which is a frightening thought, and I will give it a good some day. Parts look great.   
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