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glovebox humor
« on: August 04, 2015, 14:48:51 »
I think the same engineer that developed the heater controls and heater box, is the same guy who designed our glove boxes. I have had my car for 35 years and still can't get the spring and fork installed. I use the key to shut and lock it. My 2 rivets on the hinge are missing also, and can't find new ones.  It is supposed to have 2 rivets and 4 screws on the one side of the hinge. If anyone knows who sells them, I would be appreciative. The 2 rivets should have been left on, to allow the hinge to be oriented correctly when installing.
« Last Edit: August 04, 2015, 15:49:50 by rmmchl »
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Re: glovebox humor
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2015, 00:00:19 »
My friendly neighborhood M-B dealer had these rivets in stock for 87 cents apiece about two months ago. They are general use - not unique to the W113

Hollow rivet - glovebox hinge (Group 68) part number - 007331 004209

Bonus: with the rivets in place, you will be able to get the forks & spring to stay put while installing the glovebox door.

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Re: glovebox humor
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2015, 00:49:46 »
thank you thank you, thank you !!!!!!!
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Re: glovebox humor
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2015, 13:08:18 »
checked with my mb parts dept--invalid number, or they couldn't find them. What would be the phone number for your Mercedes parts dealer?
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Re: glovebox humor
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2015, 18:08:32 »
On a 230SL the rivet is a DIN 7340 (p/n 007340 004106) that changed to a compression rivet  DIN 7331 on 250SL/280SL.
If you cannot get one from the dealer then look for one of these rivet styles in the aftermarket.
The diameter should be 4mm and length 4mm.
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Re: glovebox humor
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2015, 20:56:34 »
Tome Hanson is sending me 50 of them, when they come in. Each glove box uses 2 of them. I'm going to donate them to those 25 members who need them at PUB this year. I'm sure a lot of glove boxes need them. They are only 40 cents each, so it will be my $20.00 donation for my pagoda brothers and sisters
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« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2015, 21:01:10 »
Alfred, thank you for the unbelievable detective work on the part numbers. I e-mailed your post to Tom Hanson to make sure they are the correct ones. I guess they will be the later style you mentioned. Hoping they changed the design because they improved them.
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Re: glovebox humor
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2015, 21:15:19 »
Michael,
I am not sure whether they are an improvement because the DIN 7340 are one piece and you can just crimp one side with a blunt/conical rod whereas the DIN 7331 may require a rivet gun.
Let us know how you'll manage it.
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Re: glovebox humor
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2015, 06:50:45 »
While you're at it, don't forget the rosette:

http://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?topic=22023.0

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Re: glovebox humor
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2015, 12:41:35 »
to be honest, if I used the rosette it would squeak more than it does now. I modified my arm hole a bit , with a dremel tool  to keep it from rubbing. I'll figure it all out when my rivets come in
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Re: glovebox humor
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2015, 21:50:24 »
I received them from the classic center. They are the 007331 rivets. It does look as if I will need a leather craft punch or rivet gun. They are available on E-Bay . I need to do more research to see how these go together
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Re: glovebox humor
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2018, 21:46:38 »
Anyone got a photo of what the original screws and rivets look like installed?
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Re: glovebox humor
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2018, 15:45:28 »
Hi Gents,
Where do these rivits go? Inboard or outboard?
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Re: glovebox humor
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2018, 19:10:32 »
Michael,
I suppose you looked at the Technical Manual, the chapter about the glove box: https://www.sl113.org/wiki/Interior/Glovebox

Please note the rivets go under the upholstery so that you do not see them. PLease also note that there should a be a cardboard (I think) pad that goes on the bottom of the glove box to cover screws as well.

There is a nice idea of a piece of tube to use to hold the spring in place and prevent it from "kinking" described in the Technical Manual. I just also glued some foam to hold this piece of pipe/tube in place as I was afraid it would rattle.

Use the rosette as advised (you will later regret you did not) - all has to fit, you can adjust rosette a bit with a file at its lower edge, it will not be seen. Once you rivet the hinge and fit the door - the curved bar should fit the rosette. Just bear in mind that you need to put the whole glove box together before you insert it under dash. You have to rivet the hinge to glove box to do that. Then fit the rosette, the rubber buffers, the door, then spring.

It is also important to remember that the four screws that hold the door to the hinge have bigger holes in the hinge than in the door. If you losen them, you can move/adjust the door fit to dashboard (be careful not to chip-off paint). You will have 1-2mm of adjustment.

I lengthen the map lamp wire for easier assembly. I routed the ipod jack socket wire through the little duct curved in the box floor for lamp wire - if you are looking into doing aomething like that.

The rubber door buffers are available from Mercedes. It is easier to fit them when the box is out.

The chrome ring nut that holds the lamp switch - I saw pictures when it was under upholstery, not seen. Then I saw the factory picture where it was on top of upholstery, visible.

Mask the dashboard area where glove box goes in with painters tape (do not let the tape sit long on painted areas) or with other materials. Less stress related to scratching anything.
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