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Re: What have you done to your Pagoda today?
« Reply #700 on: April 10, 2018, 02:41:21 »
Really nice!
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Re: What have you done to your Pagoda today?
« Reply #701 on: April 13, 2018, 02:23:10 »
New underhood brake lines.  Went through 25 feet of tubing to get a good useable 7 feet.  Brake master is a stand in until I find the new one I put away “somewhere safe”.  The only place I could find the correct end fittings for the brake lines was a company called Belmetric.  Everything else I fond was a 10mm nut instead of the Euro standard 11mm.

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Re: What have you done to your Pagoda today?
« Reply #702 on: April 13, 2018, 05:54:39 »
Maybe you could take pictures of all three sides of the bay so that we have the pictures with proper lines routing, clamps etc.? I would, actually, find it very useful...
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Re: What have you done to your Pagoda today?
« Reply #703 on: April 13, 2018, 13:49:26 »
Shvegel,
Why did you need to go through 25 feet of brake line to get 7 usable feet. I mean, what was wrong with the line you could not use?
Thanks,
Mark
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Re: What have you done to your Pagoda today?
« Reply #704 on: April 15, 2018, 00:36:00 »
Pawel, 
Always best to model off of an original car.  There are slight differences between mine and original that I am willing to accept. Use the "before" pictures as there are some things that are not correct in the after pictures.

https://motoringinvestments.com/historic/Gelson280SL.htm

Mark,
Nothing wrong with the tube.  The problem is with the guy bending it.  I am pretty picky and having things be the right height, in the right place and straight can take a few tries.  I worked for a plumbing company years ago in the days of hard threaded pipe and the guys I worked with took great pride in their straight runs etc.  It sort of rubbed off on me.
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Re: What have you done to your Pagoda today?
« Reply #705 on: April 15, 2018, 15:57:07 »
Thanks Shvegel, I get it now.
If I had more experience in bending tube (one of the things I have avoided so far) I'd bet I wouldn't have had to ask that question.
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Re: What have you done to your Pagoda today?
« Reply #706 on: April 15, 2018, 20:05:36 »
Pawel, 
Always best to model off of an original car.  There are slight differences between mine and original that I am willing to accept. Use the "before" pictures as there are some things that are not correct in the after pictures.

https://motoringinvestments.com/historic/Gelson280SL.htm


ok, thank you!
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Re: What have you done to your Pagoda today?
« Reply #707 on: April 16, 2018, 00:21:44 »
I found these on Amazon.  They are a perfect match if you have the black plastic straps on your underhood brake lines.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UKEUCPO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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Re: What have you done to your Pagoda today?
« Reply #708 on: April 18, 2018, 04:18:10 »
The brake lines look good.

Its one of the things I am fussy about too. I had a guy work for me once and one of the questions I asked him at his interview was if he could make nice brake lines, obviously he replied yes.....fast forward a couple of days and he proudly showed me one he'd made and it was appalling, too long, kinked, wrong shape. I told him it wasn't up to scratch and to try again, he got the hump and walked out, never to be seen again...and that was out of kunifer, much easier to work than steel.

Another one of my competitors replaced a brake line on a customers 64 and that was the same, to get the length right they put an S bend in the middle of the line. They spilled brake fluid on his fender too...maybe the same guy went to work for them.

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Re: What have you done to your Pagoda today?
« Reply #709 on: April 21, 2018, 01:05:27 »
Today I mounted the correct 5.5j x 14 wheels, wheel covers, and trim rings.  Really made a difference in the appearance of the car.. 

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Re: What have you done to your Pagoda today?
« Reply #710 on: April 21, 2018, 01:15:42 »
Incidentally, since I’ve owned the car it’s had the wrong wheels (108-400-07-02) and one-piece wheel covers.  Took almost 2 yrs to get all the right hardware together - but it was worth the effort..3 more pics attached.

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Re: What have you done to your Pagoda today?
« Reply #711 on: April 21, 2018, 01:36:09 »
Those look really nice.

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Re: What have you done to your Pagoda today?
« Reply #712 on: April 21, 2018, 02:50:57 »
Lovely!  What size are your Uniroyal Tiger Paw white walls?
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Re: What have you done to your Pagoda today?
« Reply #713 on: April 21, 2018, 06:17:41 »
They look really good

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Re: What have you done to your Pagoda today?
« Reply #714 on: April 21, 2018, 09:43:33 »
Great looking car.  8)
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Re: What have you done to your Pagoda today?
« Reply #715 on: April 21, 2018, 12:59:01 »
The dark body colors with the narrow white walls provide a great look!  (But I am a bit prejudiced ;))👍
Looks very nice indeed!
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Re: What have you done to your Pagoda today?
« Reply #716 on: April 21, 2018, 14:40:54 »
What size are your Uniroyal Tiger Paw white walls?
These are the same 185\75 R14's Buds Benz mounted several years ago. I'm really no fan of Uniroyal, but since the tires have plenty of treadlife remaining, I went ahead and had them remounted.  I'll go with a wider whitewall next time..

 

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Re: What have you done to your Pagoda today?
« Reply #717 on: April 21, 2018, 15:13:04 »
Charles,
Like this?  It's my screen saver and future objective.  I found it when I Googled 230SL images.  I'm almost there.  I've mounted Diamondback wide whitewalls but they still have the light blue protective dye on them for a few more weeks.
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Re: What have you done to your Pagoda today?
« Reply #718 on: April 23, 2018, 00:58:07 »
Tom I really like those Diamondbacks - they're just too pricy for the lady of the house and they'd end up costing me ten-fold in women's apparel. I’m leaning toward those Maxxis ¾ whitewalls that Ralph has on his 280.

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Re: What have you done to your Pagoda today?
« Reply #719 on: April 25, 2018, 15:45:28 »
Fun with firewall pad.

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Re: What have you done to your Pagoda today?
« Reply #720 on: April 26, 2018, 03:02:54 »
Looking good with the pad, and soooooooo much easier when all the other items are out of the way.
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Re: What have you done to your Pagoda today?
« Reply #721 on: April 26, 2018, 08:35:25 »
JohnnyB,  Thanks,  I am going to put the engine back in in the next couple days and after standing in the engine compartment doing the brake lines I put the firewall pad on my list of "before engine" projects.   

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Re: What have you done to your Pagoda today?
« Reply #722 on: April 26, 2018, 15:08:14 »
Mr Chassis, meet Mr Engine.

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Re: What have you done to your Pagoda today?
« Reply #723 on: April 26, 2018, 16:00:07 »
In my language the engine is "he" and chassis can be "she". Just sounds more romantic.
Pawel

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Re: What have you done to your Pagoda today?
« Reply #724 on: April 26, 2018, 16:48:32 »
not when the old engine fails
Enjoy some pictures at this link:
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