280 SL Toolkits - Don't be confused

[Douglas]

If you're interested in originality, do NOT buy this toolkit for a Pagoda:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=43998&item=2454143799

This is from a much later Mercedes. Perhaps the seller means an R 107 280 SL when he says it's a "280 SL toolkit."

Douglas Kim
New York, NY
280 SL #018260

[rwmastel]

Perhaps we should dedicate this discussion thread to historically correct tool kits for the W113.  If we combine pictures with toolkit content lists and descriptions of the pouches (material, number of tool pockets, etc.) then we could have some very precise descriptions that people could refer to for many years.  Can anyone start?  I did not get a tool pouch with my 230SL.

Rodd
Powell, Ohio, USA
1966 230SL, Euro, Auto, Leather, both  tops
1994 E420

[ja17]

Hello Doug,
This is not a 280-SL tool kit. It is not even a W107 280-SL tool kit.
The original W113 280-SL kit is easily recognized by the Pouch which is a vinyl type material rather than canvaas. An incomplete illustration of tools and the pouch is in the owner's parts book and the dealer parts book. Many of the much more common sedans of that era had the same tools in their tool kits. The biggest giveaway is the much nicer vinyl tool pouch on the SL's. The locking pliers are another item unique to the SL tool pouch. Many of the tools in the kit are not shown in this dealers parts book illustration:

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The ebay tool kit shown, is probably from a much more modern Mercedes. The two piece tire iron, and the flat alloy wheel staring peg indicate a much later Mercedes.
I am sure someone in the group can supply a good photo of an original tool kit.

Joe Alexander
Blacklick, Ohio

[Naj ✝︎]

Thats definately an '80s tool kit

Have a look at this one!

http://pagoda113.com/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=3846000021&f=2076001521&m=5406098842&r=4296073942#4296073942

Pouch looks right. Not sure about the contents!!

[ja17]

Hello Naj,
Yes that kit is mosly correct. There may be a tool or two missing. The exact content may have varied very slightly depending on the year. I know the long handled "channel lock" style pliers  were in some of the kits. Also the fuse assortment on the W113 cars should have all white 8 amp fuses.

Joe Alexander
Blacklick, Ohio

[hands_aus]

I vaguely remember this being discussed on the yahoo site.

So what about the earlier cars?

Like Rodds' 230 SL, my 250 SL didn't come to me with a toolkit.

Anybody have a picture of the early toolkits? Were there changes between the very early ones and the kits for the 250SL and the 280 SL?

Bob (Brisbane,Australia)
early 250 SL, RHD

[waltklatt]

Hello all,
This toolkit comes from a W201 190 series model as it is to have a compact tire bolt breaker bar to fit into the tight confines of the trunk.
Regards,
Walter Klatt
1963 230SL, gas, euro, navy blue/red leather, 4 spd manual
1967 220SL, diesel, US, silver/black tex, 5 spd manual

Doug wrote:
This is from a much later Mercedes. Perhaps the seller means an R 107 280 SL when he says it's a "280 SL toolkit."

Douglas Kim
New York, NY
280 SL #018260
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[Jonny B]

A bit off topic, but Walt, what is a 220SL diesel??

Jonny B
1967 250SL Auto

[n/a]

I believe that I have the entire original tool kit for my 69 280SL. When the car gets back (we are still fiddling with the ignition issues) I will take some pictures of it and post them. Should be the end of this week, with any luck.

[Richard Madison]

Our Photo Gallery has a tool kit photo...

My car came with the original tool kit...the tools and wrapper in the kit in the Photo Gallery image (link below) looks correct.

I'm not sure if the plastic fuse puller (very elusive) was still part of the kit for the later cars.
 
http://index.php?topic=22

Richard M.

[ja17]

Hello Richard,
That tool kit in the photo gallery is correct and complete. Almost all of the tools can be collected from more common sedan tool kits. The nicer tool bag and the long handled pliers are hard to come by.
An optional lubrication tool kit was offered by the dealer. This kit contained special oil drain plug tools, a spedcial grease gun for the door hinges, and the very sought after Merceds-Benz engraved, chrome tire pressure gauge in a blue wooden and felt lined box! I was lucky enough to find one see photo;

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Some earlier Mercedes cars 190-SL, 300-SL had the tire pressure gauge and special drain plug wrench included in their standard tool kits.

Joe Alexander
Blacklick, Ohio

[jcjblo]

I had a 1986 MB 300E with a toolkit that looks exactly like that set on Ebay

1965-230SL 4-speed Euro/Canada version, white (050) black leather interior

[hands_aus]

What did the kit look like for the earlier cars, 230 and 250 SLs

Were they the same grey folder or were they the red fabric wrap up?

Bob (Brisbane,Australia)
early 250 SL, RHD

[Douglas]

Another misrepresented toolkit on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2487998785&category=34206

Yes, the tools could work for a Pagoda, but this is not a 280SL toolkit.

Douglas Kim
New York, NY
280 SL #016220

[hauser]

Take a look at Joe Alexander's post of Jan. 18, 2004.  In the ilustration that Joe has provided check out #4.  I know its use but not sure what it is called.  I need one.  Does anyone know a source for this item?  I would also like to know about the plastic fuse puller.  Are these also available?  Even if not original to our tool kits it would be a nice addition.

1969 280sl 5 spd        1999 ML320          Gainesville,Fl.

[rwmastel]

What you're referring to is a "wheel centering tool".  It's used when mounting the wheel on the car.  I would contact MB as well as 4 or 5 other parts suppliers and see who has the best price.

Rodd
Powell, Ohio, USA
1966 230SL, Euro, Auto, Leather, both  tops
1994 E420

[rwmastel]

quote:Originally posted by Douglas

Another misrepresented toolkit on ebay:

Doug,

How can you tell?  Maybe you can educate us who are not tool kit specialists.

Rodd
Powell, Ohio, USA
1966 230SL, Euro, Auto, Leather, both  tops
1994 E420

[Bob G]

Richard Madison's pictures are of the period correct tool kit that came with our cars. A supplemental tool kit as pictured by Joe Alexander shows special lube units and wrenches as well as the tire pressure gauge and over-the-counter part sold back in the 1960s.
 
Two fuse pullers (not pictured) black plastic one with inside ball on each end was replaced with one with out as these tend to break. Also the tire centering tool that sits snuggly in the tire wrap lower pocket is often missing. This item was supplied with the sedans and coupes of the same peroid and may be found in recycle yards.

The tool wrap was made of remnants of Mercedes-Benz Tex meterial in different colors grey, brown black ,blue and soft top material as you open the wrap, the inside material is green with the embossed Mercedes Benz star to the right.

Proper care and cleaning of the material is important to keep it looking nice.

One other item to add. The famous Bosch trouble lights. These started with the 300SL and toward production change of our car they where given to Bosch to sell where they receive a grey cord. This again is a rare item and was at one time an over the counter item at the local Mercedes-Benz parts counter.

Bob Geco

[Douglas]

I'm going to let Bob Geco's post do the talking on the subject of toolkits.

My posting was really a warning to people who frequent this site. I hate seeing sellers on ebay who label items as W113 parts erroneously. As we are all painfully aware, when it's a 113 part and not a run-of-the-mill sedan part, it's suddenly worth a bundle. It seems as if sellers sometimes exploit this fact. In fact, there's a 114 headlight surround on ebay right now that's described as a 280 SL part. (I e-mailed the seller and told him. And in this case, it seems it was an innocent error.)

As always, let the buyer beware!



Douglas Kim
New York, NY
280 SL #016220

[hands_aus]

Does any one know what the tool kit and pouch looks like for the 230 and 250 sl?

thanks

Bob (Brisbane,Australia)
RHD,1967 early 250 SL, auto

[Jonny B]

Just to give an update, the tool kit is currently at $330.60! Are we in the right business?

Jonny B
1967 250SL Auto

[Douglas]

Here's another toolkit erroneously labeled as a 280 SL toolkit by, I believe, the same seller:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2492229157&category=42606

(The one good thing about this kit is it has the fuse pliers.)

Douglas Kim
New York, NY
280 SL #016220

[A Dalton]

Check the Buy-it-Now on this one just listed...

 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2493679973&category=42611

[hauser]

If someone is intrested in this latest tool kit auction I know the seller will deal with you off ebay.  I know this because he contacted me on one of his previous auctions and was negotiating prices.  I had the highest bid at the time so I thought it was in the bag.  Then the seller ended the auction early.

1969 280sl 5 spd        1999 ML320          Gainesville,Fl.

[glennard]

quote:Originally posted by Jonny B

A bit off topic, but Walt, what is a 220SL diesel??

Jonny B
1967 250SL Auto

What is a 220SL diesel???