Author Topic: Getrag 265 - 5 Speed Conversion  (Read 113417 times)

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Re: Getrag 265 - 5 Speed Conversion
« Reply #25 on: September 25, 2014, 16:06:11 »
Resurrecting this as I have an issue with abbot tech cable x boxes in that I can't get them to work reliably.
Anyone who has used this option please get in touch.
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Re: Getrag 265 - 5 Speed Conversion
« Reply #26 on: September 26, 2014, 16:52:18 »
Sorry you're having so much trouble.  My Cable-X is over 5 years old and still working.  It does have a occasional wobble but settles down quite accurately.
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Re: Getrag 265 - 5 Speed Conversion
« Reply #27 on: September 26, 2014, 18:46:54 »
The trouble I'm having is not one of mechanical installation, rather compatability of components supplied by Abbot.

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Re: Getrag 265 - 5 Speed Conversion
« Reply #28 on: December 03, 2014, 17:54:48 »
Hello there everyone on the forum, I spoke to Mark Bull a couple of years ago about the Getrag 265 conversion and was hoping to get a 5 speed installation started by spring 2014, but Marks website is down and my previous links all lead to nowhere ... does anybody know if Mark is still involved in suppling the conversion hardware ?? thanks ...... PS I have been running my 113 for over 25 years now and use it as a daily driver ..... (not in the winter) ....

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Re: Getrag 265 - 5 Speed Conversion
« Reply #29 on: December 03, 2014, 23:00:14 »
Yes, he is still doing them but I am working with him to improve the design a little. I spoke to him last week. If you can't get hold of  him you can speak to him through me. I offer complete packages using Mark's kit but am having trouble with speedo drives at the moment. I have a solution in the pipeline but no date for delivery as yet.

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Re: Getrag 265 - 5 Speed Conversion
« Reply #30 on: December 04, 2014, 19:12:51 »
Thats great news ... I'm planning to take the Pagoda on a trip round Italy next year and I could do with some longer legs than the 4 speed manual has on offer .... How is availability on the Getrag 265 boxes ... is there a source or do I just start hunting ??? ....

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Re: Getrag 265 - 5 Speed Conversion
« Reply #31 on: December 04, 2014, 20:51:43 »
Yes, he is still doing them but I am working with him to improve the design a little. I spoke to him last week. If you can't get hold of  him you can speak to him through me. I offer complete packages using Mark's kit but am having trouble with speedo drives at the moment. I have a solution in the pipeline but no date for delivery as yet.

Stick,

among design improvements you should consider a system that retains the tunnel lower plate. I had a discussion with Mark some time ago and he was of the opinion that the Pagoda's shell was overbuilt and didn't really need this lower plate to keep it stiff. That may be ok for leisure cruising but may be more of an issue in case of spirited driving, especially if the car has been fitted with uprated an stiffer suspension springs (higher probability among owners interested by a 5 speed transmission).

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Re: Getrag 265 - 5 Speed Conversion
« Reply #32 on: December 04, 2014, 22:47:42 »
I have talked at length with Mark about it and we are both of the opinion that a stronger cradle than the one he was supplying is perfectly sufficient. There is SO much strength in that area already, much more than any other car I've seen naked. Mark is an experienced engineer and with some input from me we think the result is good.
The problem with trying to keep the original plate is it's impossible to squeeze the Getrag between it and the transmission tunnel. some people have already had to modify their transmission tunnel to accept the Getrag but with the new cradle it's not necessary.
Now, I still need a speedo solution!

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Re: Getrag 265 - 5 Speed Conversion
« Reply #33 on: December 04, 2014, 23:09:36 »
Well, this is reassuring me to some extent as it is one of the points I wanted to revise on my car. Are you planning on a stronger cradle because the current one is weak (it bends upwards if a floor jack is used under it) or for shell stiffening purposes?


Now, I still need a speedo solution!


I heard of someone having a speedo modified on r107 with a GPS speedo. Odometer becomes digital though.

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Re: Getrag 265 - 5 Speed Conversion
« Reply #34 on: December 05, 2014, 16:24:58 »
The cradle is modified to be stronger in all respects.
I've been offered GPS based solutions but don't want to do that for a number of reasons, not least because I'm not sure of the legality of it here in the UK.

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Re: Getrag 265 - 5 Speed Conversion
« Reply #35 on: December 05, 2014, 20:38:01 »
BMW have a worm drive for the 256 box, I used one but the  only problem it is so expensive that in some cases it is more than the box itself.

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Re: Getrag 265 - 5 Speed Conversion
« Reply #36 on: December 06, 2014, 08:31:31 »
Garry, they no longer supply it.

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Re: Getrag 265 - 5 Speed Conversion
« Reply #37 on: June 15, 2015, 11:19:07 »
HI, I AM NEW TO THE FORUM AND INTEND TO CONVERT MY AUTO TO 5 SPEED MANUAL. DO WE HAVE A CONTACT FOR MARK BULL TO PURCHASE A CONVERSION KIT THANKYOU GORDON WALTON

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Re: Getrag 265 - 5 Speed Conversion
« Reply #38 on: June 16, 2015, 21:08:40 »
Hi...

You could start by trying to send mkbull a private message. Switching off BOLD and your CAPS lock would be nice too.

See Etiquette. If this all fails I'll send Mark a message and alert him to this post. We do not disclose e-mail addresses.

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Re: Getrag 265 - 5 Speed Conversion
« Reply #39 on: June 17, 2015, 06:33:15 »
Thanks Peter
I've sent Gordon a message and passed on my direct contact details.. The kit is still available.
Best Regards Mark

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Re: Getrag 265 - 5 Speed Conversion
« Reply #40 on: June 23, 2015, 13:53:40 »
What BMW carries this gearbox?

Thanks

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Re: Getrag 265 - 5 Speed Conversion
« Reply #41 on: June 23, 2015, 18:21:58 »
Hi Gordon

We spoke on the phone regarding conversion, you left message about pedal set and I mislaid your number. Do you still require?

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Re: Getrag 265 - 5 Speed Conversion
« Reply #42 on: June 27, 2015, 18:40:13 »
I have his email address.

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Re: Getrag 265 - 5 Speed Conversion
« Reply #43 on: December 06, 2015, 06:14:02 »
Hi Mark,
Trying to contact you re my '66 W111 and making use of your kit - seems that your PM box is full. How can I reach you?
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Re: Getrag 265 - 5 Speed Conversion
« Reply #44 on: December 07, 2015, 02:01:21 »
280SL050

Look here:
http://forums.turbobricks.com/archive/index.php/t-188163.html

if you find a 265 Getrag beware there are 2 different versions.  One is the desirable overdrive unit and one is a sport 5 speed where the top ratio is the same as the 4 speed Mercedes transmission. 

The other issue is the later transmissions do not have a mechanical speedometer gear and the gears are no longer available from BMW which means you have to have some sort of electronic converter for your speedometer.

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Re: Getrag 265 - 5 Speed Conversion
« Reply #45 on: December 07, 2015, 16:34:01 »
My electronic speedo solution is now ready to go.

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Re: Getrag 265 - 5 Speed Conversion
« Reply #46 on: April 07, 2016, 16:45:00 »
Has anybody ordered a speedometer cable to a getrag conversion from Speedy Cables?

I would like to place an order and it would help if I could name someone that has already ordered from them (for a LHD car).
They could just look from their file and make a similar cable...
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Re: Getrag 265 - 5 Speed Conversion
« Reply #47 on: April 09, 2016, 13:02:52 »
I have, but Speedy cables really know their stuff , should be no problem.

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Re: Getrag 265 - 5 Speed Conversion
« Reply #48 on: April 09, 2016, 15:58:45 »
http://www.taflexa.de/Frame.htm
I get it here. No problems
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Re: Getrag 265 - 5 Speed Conversion
« Reply #49 on: April 09, 2016, 17:47:11 »

Mark

I tried to explain to Anthony at Speedy Cables what I wanted. He wrote it would be easier if I could name someone who has already ordered a similar cable (They could just check from their files).

Peter

It would be even more difficult for me to explain it in German language... :)
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