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hill

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Pass mirror
« on: May 06, 2008, 19:59:45 »
Have a passenger side goose neck mirror coming in. what is the factory location of these mirrors?

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« Last Edit: May 06, 2008, 20:00:34 by hill »

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Re: Pass mirror
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2008, 03:37:43 »
Don't know where the factory put the right side optional mirror. Some might have been dealer installed and may have been positioned "by guess."  Also, position might be different for a RHD Driver mirror and a LHD Passenger mirror as the driver would be in a different position.

Just a few words from an amateur installer: started in the same position as the left side mirror then adjusted slightly after trial and error. Made sure the window would clear the mirror when the mirror was turned in the "working" position. Made a last check before drilling while sitting with the driver seat set in various positions.

Also need to install (and maybe make) a base for the mirror inside the door shell...an aluminum plate (aluminum to avoid "fighting" between different metals), no sharp edges, slightly larger than the base of the mirror to ensure that an accidental push on the mirror stem won't rip the mirror off the door.  

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« Last Edit: May 07, 2008, 03:38:05 by 280SL71 »
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Re: Pass mirror
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2008, 04:10:19 »
quote:
Originally posted by hill

Have a passenger side goose neck mirror coming in.
what is the factory location of these mirrors?

I quote Richard Hattaway here:
This is for the “swan-neck” type outer mirror. Draw a line parallel to the outside edge of the window trim and 30 mm away from it, along the door panel.
This is the center line for three holes to be drilled in the door.
 
The first hole center is 46 mm back from the door front edge along this line.
That hole is 10 mm in diameter.  
The second hole center is 72,5 mm back from the same front edge, and is 6 mm in diameter.
The third hole center is 91 mm back from the front edge, and is 12 mm in diameter.
Please understand that this is how it is on my car, which is original, and presently from which the mirror is removed.
 Also, this is only the drivers side. /Richard Hattaway
My comment: The passenger side swan-neck mirror was set further back. I don't have an exact measurement, but around 80mm.
Perhaps just have an assistant move the mirror base rearwards along the 30mm line, until the whole mirror face can be seen by yourself
when sitting in the drivers position, i.e. when the mirror face clears the A pillar. Position mirror there.
The supporting metal plate inside the door skin that Richard Madison mentions is absolutely essential

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/Hans in Sweden
« Last Edit: May 07, 2008, 14:30:28 by mbzse »
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Re: Pass mirror
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2008, 04:58:21 »
This thread is quite useful:

http://index.php?topic=3344

Note how the left mirror clears the window frame (RHD Car)!

naj

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« Last Edit: May 07, 2008, 05:00:56 by naj »
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tuultyme

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Re: Pass mirror
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2008, 10:11:49 »
When I installed a passager mirror a few years ago mounted same as the driver location ('70 289).  The door already had a double plate on the inside of the door at the correct mounting location.

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Re: Pass mirror
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2008, 10:43:43 »
quote:
Originally posted by tuultyme

When I installed a passager mirror a few years ago mounted same as the driver location ('70 289)

The early swan-neck (goose-neck) type W113 mirror discussed below mounts with a different hole pattern and in a different position, compared to the later type mirror mounted on your automobile. Change-over was in July 1967 (250SL chassis No 2980 was the first with later type mirror)
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« Last Edit: May 07, 2008, 10:49:12 by mbzse »
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hill

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Re: Pass mirror
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2008, 20:14:09 »
Thanks MBZSE, TUULTYME, NAJ and 280sl71.

I am just going to go to a body shop and have them do it to my line of site. Since my right eye don't work,it might have to be a little closer to the post. Of course the mirror will be set at the same height as the DSM. Thanks again
 

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Re: Pass mirror
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2008, 13:55:07 »
Hi Darryl,

I have a passenger mirror too, but I haven't put it on yet.  Were you able to get that gas cap like mine?

Pete S.

hill

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Re: Pass mirror
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2008, 12:08:44 »
quote:
Originally posted by psmith

Hi Darryl,

I have a passenger mirror too, but I haven't put it on yet.  Were you able to get that gas cap like mine?

Pete S.



I grabbed a Stant 11810 (Ford PU) for $6 and it seals well. I ill pickup a 811 to slow down the fuel thieves. Thanks for the tip.

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Happy Benzing
Darryl, Hill
350 SL4.5 #60
1967 250sl "California"
« Last Edit: May 09, 2008, 12:11:01 by hill »