I've been to this July Deutsche Marques show twice. Never the Oktoberfest show.
DM is a great show!! Well organized, big participation (500+) with a great variety, and the Gilmore Museum facilities are wonderful. I usually spend 75% of my time looking in the museum buildings. Something for everyone.
I saw a Pagoda there my last time attending. Owner had no interest in hearing about our Group. Didn't really want to talk to anyone about anything. Must have had some agenda.