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Bobe

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seat refurbishment perforated leather
« on: May 27, 2025, 09:37:49 »
Hi There,

as already said here, I'm in the process of completely refurbishing my '67 250 SL. I have been looking for seats covers and other parts to replace the MBtex with leather, and came on KHM website in Germany. The prices are fine, until you receive a quote which surprisingly adds a minimum of 25% to the bottom line for... colouring of the leather ! In some case, and depending on the colour, this can go to 40% or even 60% increase in prices. These commercial practices are not very pleasant, and in my case, bound to fail!

Instead, I'm turning to a leather dealer of high quality leather (no surcharge whatever the colour you choose...) and found someone, a retired professional reupholster, who is happy to do the job.

I have one question concerning the perforated part of the seats: i don't have the car with me as it is in a workshop a few hundreds kilometers away so I can't measure myself. Would anyone be able to tell me what is the approx. length and width for each seat that needs to be perforated so that i can order from the shop ?
 
Great thanks in advance.
250 SL '67 horizontblau
280 SE '79 Champagne
Citroen 2CV 6 special '83 Rouge Vallelunga

zoegrlh

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Re: seat refurbishment perforated leather
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2025, 11:47:58 »
Have you contacted other suppliers?  GAHH in LA, Calf. Has the seat covers in leather already stitched, and has all the colors of original materials. These are to specs. So are you asking the widths of perforated sections?
Robert Hyatt
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W113, 1970 280SL, Red leather 242 on Silver Gray Met. 180, 4-speed stick, Euro spec, restored
R172 2012 SLK350, Black Premium leather 801 on Mars Red 590, 7-speed auto
W211, 2007 E320 Bluetec, Cashmere MB Tex 144 on Arctic White 650, 7 speed auto

Jack the Knife

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Re: seat refurbishment perforated leather
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2025, 12:30:53 »
For what it's worth, I looked at six or so different suppliers for cognac leather. KHM had the best/most authentic product, to me.
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Bobe

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Re: seat refurbishment perforated leather
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2025, 13:03:41 »
Thanks zoegrlh, yes I'm looking for the size of the perforated area on seats and backs, so as to send the details to the leather supplier.

I have not been looking at US/non EU suppliers because with the trade war going on and customs duties jumping overnight based on changing moods.

To Jack's comment, KHM just has a crappy commercial policy: my advice to them would be that they increase their prices and forget about any visible "surcharge" for colouring on their quotes. The leather supplier i'm dealing with  let me have any coulour I wish at no extra cost. Their quote for the full leather supply (around 10sqm of top quality) is just around the amount of KHM "surcharge" and you have a wide choice of  leathers, when KHM does not provide any choice (and you don't know what they are selling to you).
250 SL '67 horizontblau
280 SE '79 Champagne
Citroen 2CV 6 special '83 Rouge Vallelunga

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Re: seat refurbishment perforated leather
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2025, 13:50:00 »
6 cm band width, 28 cm across 4 bands, length 61cm from back of seat to front of seat.
Robert Hyatt
Williamsburg, VA.

W113, 1970 280SL, Red leather 242 on Silver Gray Met. 180, 4-speed stick, Euro spec, restored
R172 2012 SLK350, Black Premium leather 801 on Mars Red 590, 7-speed auto
W211, 2007 E320 Bluetec, Cashmere MB Tex 144 on Arctic White 650, 7 speed auto

Bobe

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Re: seat refurbishment perforated leather
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2025, 14:53:02 »
great! very helful, many thanks.
250 SL '67 horizontblau
280 SE '79 Champagne
Citroen 2CV 6 special '83 Rouge Vallelunga

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Re: seat refurbishment perforated leather
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2025, 19:33:29 »
Autosattlerei F&E Design
Rene Engelbrecht
phone nr. 05223991095
you won't be disappointed.

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Re: seat refurbishment perforated leather
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2025, 20:53:12 »
What I have found is that the cost to perform the reupholstery in a first class manner costs at least double the cost of the materials, so buy the best quality materials.
You only do this once.

jz
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1983 280 SL
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2007 ML CDI
2004 E 320 Wagon
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Bobe

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Re: seat refurbishment perforated leather
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2025, 10:13:01 »
Thanks all for the suggestions: I have contacted F&E design in Germany suggested by Hamid, although I feel like heading towards buying a leather of excellent quality and get the job done by a retired professional saddler close to my place. I'll be visiting tomorrow the shop of a leather supplier that also works with big German names, and provide notably their famous (and expensive) NAPPA leather.

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280 SE '79 Champagne
Citroen 2CV 6 special '83 Rouge Vallelunga

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Re: seat refurbishment perforated leather
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2025, 17:15:41 »
Thanks zoegrlh, yes I'm looking for the size of the perforated area on seats and backs, so as to send the details to the leather supplier.

I have not been looking at US/non EU suppliers because with the trade war going on and customs duties jumping overnight based on changing moods.

To Jack's comment, KHM just has a crappy commercial policy: my advice to them would be that they increase their prices and forget about any visible "surcharge" for colouring on their quotes. The leather supplier i'm dealing with  let me have any coulour I wish at no extra cost. Their quote for the full leather supply (around 10sqm of top quality) is just around the amount of KHM "surcharge" and you have a wide choice of  leathers, when KHM does not provide any choice (and you don't know what they are selling to you).
Could you provide contact pls per PM as for my next project car I will need a colour that is not available from KHM and other suppliers..
Thy
1964 230SL

 

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