Author Topic: Clutch Replacement on 230SL (Chassis #9875) with Getrag 265  (Read 1941 times)

Jack the Knife

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My clutch and everything else is original. I want to do some preventative maintenance when I have the car away for the 5-speed transmission swap (finally). I have read all the posts I could find on replacing the clutch in earlier cars, but since certain parts are NLA, I am confused as to what supersedes those parts and can be used without issue in my car. From what I understand, I need:

- pilot bearing
- pilot bearing cover
- throw out bearing and bushing for the 230SL
- clutch disc
- ... and the pressure plate from a 280SL should work, right?

« Last Edit: May 20, 2025, 21:18:07 by Jack the Knife »
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Re: Clutch Replacement on 230SL (Chassis #9875)
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2025, 18:06:52 »
It appears that the clutch release (throw out) bearing from the 230/250 does not work with the pressure plate, though I have to get by the mechanic later today to see what's up.

Can anyone opine on this, or does anyone happen to have a 280 bearing they'd like to trade for my unused 230/250 bearing? Or sell me?
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Re: Clutch Replacement on 230SL (Chassis #9875)
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2025, 20:22:44 »
Just stopped by mechanic -- I think I might need the Getrag bearing instead.
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Re: Clutch Replacement on 230SL (Chassis #9875)
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2025, 21:32:37 »
Just stopped by mechanic -- I think I might need the Getrag bearing instead.

If a moderator could kindly move this into R&D... I should've specified in the title that this is for the Getrag-swap, not for the stock transmission.

I have not found any information about this anywhere. The 230/250 clutch release bearing holder doesn't fit onto the Getrag input shaft.

It appears the inside measurement of the Mercedes clutch release bearing is 34mm. One from a BMW E28 has an inside diameter of 44mm. I will get back to the mechanic tomorrow to measure the input shaft.

Can anyone who has done this swap please help me?
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Re: Clutch Replacement on 230SL (Chassis #9875) with Getrag 265
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2025, 18:55:12 »
Hello Jack, until an expert weighs in, you may want to have a read of this, it may or may not help, but is an interesting read anyway

https://www.w113.eu/Optimierungen/5%20Gang%20Getriebe%20Mercedes%20Pagode%20W113.html
« Last Edit: May 21, 2025, 19:09:20 by BobH »
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Re: Clutch Replacement on 230SL (Chassis #9875) with Getrag 265
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2025, 21:42:57 »
Hello Jack, until an expert weighs in, you may want to have a read of this, it may or may not help, but is an interesting read anyway

https://www.w113.eu/Optimierungen/5%20Gang%20Getriebe%20Mercedes%20Pagode%20W113.html

Hello Bob, thanks for this -- I did read it the other day, just to be sure I wasn't missing anything... I've also been in touch with Wolfgang, who has no idea what I'm talking about. Well, E28 bearing will be here tomorrow, will report.
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