anyone have a extra valve spring.....

[erickmarciano]

anyone have a extra valve spring compress tool for sale or does anyone make a homemade one they can sell
thnaks
Erick

1971 280sl
1962 VW
1954 Allstate vespa
1958 gs150 vespa
1962 gs160 vespa

[Cees Klumper]

count me in for one too ...

Cees ("Case") Klumper in Amsterdam
'69 white 280 SL automatic

[ja17]

Hello Erick and Cees,
Are you guys talking about compressing springs with the head on the engine or when the head is off.



Joe Alexander
Blacklick, Ohio

[Cees Klumper]

Hello Joe - for me it would be with the head on. Two weeks ago, when I adjusted my valve clearances as part of a major service, I had to take a few rockers out because my Hazet crow foot wrench was unable to turn the adjuster; I went through a LOT of trouble with a make-shift lever to compress the valve springs enough to be able to slide the rocker arm out so I could move the ball adjuster with a socket. Having a tool like you made yourself would make the job many times easier. In fact, I wonder how regular mechanics do this job without a special tool.

Cees ("Case") Klumper in Amsterdam
'69 white 280 SL automatic

[Naj ✝︎]

Here's one I use:



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I can supply them for Euro 30.00

naj

65 230SL
68 280SL

[Cees Klumper]

That should do the trick - anyone planning to adjust their own valves, I can recommend you get one of these ...

Cees ("Case") Klumper in Amsterdam
'69 white 280 SL automatic

[erickmarciano]

valve on the head

think I got a valve seal to replace .if I had a bad valve guide would i hear it , the car sounds great.I will probably only use it once , I need the home made one
thnaks

1971 280sl
1962 VW
1954 Allstate vespa
1958 gs150 vespa
1962 gs160 vespa

[Ben]

Cees I am surprised you had difficulty taking out a rocker arm. I simply use a large scredriver and can have any rocker out in about 30 seconds !!

I made up a tool for doing the valve stem seals in place as per the Haynes manual. Basically a small 1" box section cut to about 12" long with a "U" shape at one end, to hook under the ball, and a square cut out to lift out the valve collects once depressed !

Took about 15 minutes to make with a dremmel tool !

Sorry I dont have a photo of it, I used it and lost it !

Regards,
Ben in Ireland.
'64 230SL 4sp.

[Cees Klumper]

Ben, I tried the large screwdriver ploy but it did not work for me the last time. I will have a look at the box tool in the Haynes manual. Anyway, I am getting one of these nifty tools from Naj, so should be all set!

Cees ("Case") Klumper in Amsterdam
'69 white 280 SL automatic

[erickmarciano]

ok will try to make the tool , anyone have mesurments for this tool?

thanks

1971 280sl
1962 VW
1954 Allstate vespa
1958 gs150 vespa
1962 gs160 vespa

[Ben]

Erick, I have the manual at home with the sizes,I will look tonight and post it up tomorrow, unless someone with the Haynes beats me too it !

Regards,
Ben in Ireland.
'64 230SL 4sp.

[Bob G]

Glad this conversation was brought up. I have a round off adjuster nut on #3 exhaust and need a tool to help change out to a new adjuster nut. I contacted Mercedes-Benz for the tool according to the part number in my big blue book starting from 1959 covering the 280SL and other models. I about fell over at the price $400.00 one let in New Jersey. I am not sure what the differences are in this tool frm serveral other manufactures, but I certainly would hope that it most be gold plated.
Bob Geco

[Ben]

Firstly ....Bob I dont see what special tool you would need to remove this item. You just remove the rocker, using a large screwdriver, then use a socket set to remove whatever you need to replace !

Erick, I consulted the Haynes last night but there are no dimensions, just a photo of the tool. I tried scanning it but its poor quality black and white to begin with and didn't work out well !

Sorry !

I will try to draw it if I get the chance later !

Regards,
Ben in Ireland.
'64 230SL 4sp.

[erickmarciano]

Ben I have the manual also but there is no mesurments for it , if you can draw me a plan that would be great .
Bob a screwdriver will do for what you need
thnaks

1971 280sl
1962 VW
1954 Allstate vespa
1958 gs150 vespa
1962 gs160 vespa

[George Davis]

Homemade rocker-removal tool photos:



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I have no luck with the screwdriver trick.  This tool is made from 1 inch x 1 inch square steel tube.  Note two upper holes allow different pry-bar angles to clear brackets.  In use, the tool is slipped under the camshaft from the valve side, the curved sections cup the camshaft and the legs sit on the valve retainer.  Pry the valve down, pop off the rocker.  Watch for the lash cap on top of the valve when reassembling.  Non-gold-plate, will sell for only $250

George Davis
'69 280 SL Euro manual

[erickmarciano]

will try to make the tool the best i can this week.
can anyone tell me what is the distance from the ball stud to the top of the valve ?
thnaks

1971 280sl
1962 VW
1954 Allstate vespa
1958 gs150 vespa
1962 gs160 vespa

[Joe]

I fiddled with this problem last year. What worked was a pair of wrenches that came with a Sears radial arm saw. They are steel, about 1/8" thick. I just stuck the handles under the cam and pressed down on the spring and the spring compressed easily. Very secure method, not given to slippage as with a screwdriver. Understand I did not use the wrenches as wrenches; I turned them 180 degrees and just used the handles as levers, holding them so the flat sides were vertical.
They also worked well to recompress the valve.
Joe

[A Dalton]

quote:Originally posted by Joe

I fiddled with this problem last year. What worked was a pair of wrenches that came with a Sears radial arm saw. They are steel, about 1/8" thick. I just stuck the handles under the cam and pressed down on the spring and the spring compressed easily. Very secure method, not given to slippage as with a screwdriver. Understand I did not use the wrenches as wrenches; I turned them 180 degrees and just used the handles as levers, holding them so the flat sides were vertical.
They also worked well to recompress the valve.
Joe

 Good one , Joe.
 I think you meant turning them 90 degrees ?
.. now , just tie the far handle ends together with a screw/nut and a 3/4" spacer in between, and there is an easily made 1 piece tool..
I like that it is wide open in the center for keeper/part access.. a magnet works well on these type jobs.