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Another 230sl restoration project (France)
« on: August 03, 2021, 10:27:35 »
Hi,

For those who didn’t read my introduction, in brief i bought a non running 230SL.
After some minor works the car fired up, and was lead to the local MOT just to complete the paper work and make it administratively clear.

Now that the car is mine I’m progressing step by step in order to make it drivable…

Here are some videos that I share on my YouTube channel (sorry it’s in french)

https://youtu.be/zFuTw1gGE5M
https://youtu.be/2W-a0HYLUSI
https://youtu.be/CM2ys6CLqdY
https://youtu.be/VlhvtOTluXo
https://youtu.be/AwLPJmehM58
https://youtu.be/ptl4RjnJ6Kw
https://youtu.be/QibORx7C6y4

The last one:

https://youtu.be/W-mW7F-HJus



« Last Edit: December 26, 2022, 08:15:10 by Figoulu »
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1990 Porsche 911/964 carrera 4 SOLD
2020 Harley Davidson Fatboy
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Re: Another 230sl restoration project (France)
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2021, 10:34:33 »
As a first diagnosis the cylinders are worn despite good measured compression.

As an obvious matter the car was running extremely rich, and I have decided to send the fip to a pro for a full refurbishment. I also put the 7 injectors to test them simultaneously… posted yesterday and will get it back by September
« Last Edit: August 03, 2021, 11:32:19 by Figoulu »
1965 230 SL
1991 Porsche 911/964 carrera 2
1990 Porsche 911/964 carrera 4 SOLD
2020 Harley Davidson Fatboy
2018 Harley Davidson Street Bob SOLD
2003 Harley Davidson Road King Classic SOLD
2017 Harley Davidson softail Slim SOLD
2008 Harley Davidson Softail Fatboy SOLD

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Re: Another 230sl restoration project (France)
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2021, 10:37:43 »
In parallel I removed the gas line and sent it to zinc platers, so call “rainbowed” as the bichromate is now forbidden.
It cost me 25€ and I guess it’s a good deal

1965 230 SL
1991 Porsche 911/964 carrera 2
1990 Porsche 911/964 carrera 4 SOLD
2020 Harley Davidson Fatboy
2018 Harley Davidson Street Bob SOLD
2003 Harley Davidson Road King Classic SOLD
2017 Harley Davidson softail Slim SOLD
2008 Harley Davidson Softail Fatboy SOLD

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Re: Another 230sl restoration project (France)
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2021, 10:43:29 »
Happy with such result I began removing all the clamps, linkage and other originally zinc plated parts to send them for the same treatment and I’ll keep you posted…

Nevertheless I have several questions and issues I’d like to solve with your help…
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1965 230 SL
1991 Porsche 911/964 carrera 2
1990 Porsche 911/964 carrera 4 SOLD
2020 Harley Davidson Fatboy
2018 Harley Davidson Street Bob SOLD
2003 Harley Davidson Road King Classic SOLD
2017 Harley Davidson softail Slim SOLD
2008 Harley Davidson Softail Fatboy SOLD

My youtube channel #lfgdf

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Re: Another 230sl restoration project (France)
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2021, 10:45:45 »
First issue, how to remove the linkage rod from its bracket to send it to the zinc shop ?

This is where I stand and I see no clue…

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1990 Porsche 911/964 carrera 4 SOLD
2020 Harley Davidson Fatboy
2018 Harley Davidson Street Bob SOLD
2003 Harley Davidson Road King Classic SOLD
2017 Harley Davidson softail Slim SOLD
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Re: Another 230sl restoration project (France)
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2021, 10:48:15 »
Other stuff… could you light me about the item below ?
It seems like a brake fluid reservoir but as the other one is easy to identify I wonder about this little one…
1965 230 SL
1991 Porsche 911/964 carrera 2
1990 Porsche 911/964 carrera 4 SOLD
2020 Harley Davidson Fatboy
2018 Harley Davidson Street Bob SOLD
2003 Harley Davidson Road King Classic SOLD
2017 Harley Davidson softail Slim SOLD
2008 Harley Davidson Softail Fatboy SOLD

My youtube channel #lfgdf

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Re: Another 230sl restoration project (France)
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2021, 10:52:21 »
And…
How to remove this one ? It seems totally stuck…
It seems to flow the coolant inside the block and I’d like to remove it for zinc plating.
Good idea ?
1965 230 SL
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1990 Porsche 911/964 carrera 4 SOLD
2020 Harley Davidson Fatboy
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2017 Harley Davidson softail Slim SOLD
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Re: Another 230sl restoration project (France)
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2021, 10:55:16 »
And… this one ?
Also related to cooling system. I guess it’s the thermostatic timer device.

Good / easy / necessary to remove ?
Note the very bas condition of the connections…
1965 230 SL
1991 Porsche 911/964 carrera 2
1990 Porsche 911/964 carrera 4 SOLD
2020 Harley Davidson Fatboy
2018 Harley Davidson Street Bob SOLD
2003 Harley Davidson Road King Classic SOLD
2017 Harley Davidson softail Slim SOLD
2008 Harley Davidson Softail Fatboy SOLD

My youtube channel #lfgdf

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Re: Another 230sl restoration project (France)
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2021, 10:57:30 »
And finally the oil filter as I guess…
What can I do to renovate it ?

Thanks for your appreciated answers and helps 👍
1965 230 SL
1991 Porsche 911/964 carrera 2
1990 Porsche 911/964 carrera 4 SOLD
2020 Harley Davidson Fatboy
2018 Harley Davidson Street Bob SOLD
2003 Harley Davidson Road King Classic SOLD
2017 Harley Davidson softail Slim SOLD
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My youtube channel #lfgdf

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Re: Another 230sl restoration project (France)
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2021, 13:39:47 »
Other stuff… could you light me about the item below ?
It seems like a brake fluid reservoir but as the other one is easy to identify I wonder about this little one…

This little plastic bottle of fluid is your clutch fluid (embrayage).   
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Re: Another 230sl restoration project (France)
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2021, 17:23:15 »
Thanks Kampala, already something clearer…

I guess the clutch has to be drained and flushed periodically?
I saw the clutch master cylinder… it’s totally toasted, corroded by certainly brake fluid leaks… and this doesn’t make the gear change difficult… anyway, something I will need to address as well as other things…

I filmed today my next YouTube video… showing where I stand and focusing on the cylinder wear…
1965 230 SL
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1990 Porsche 911/964 carrera 4 SOLD
2020 Harley Davidson Fatboy
2018 Harley Davidson Street Bob SOLD
2003 Harley Davidson Road King Classic SOLD
2017 Harley Davidson softail Slim SOLD
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Re: Another 230sl restoration project (France)
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2021, 20:45:54 »
Where did you send the FIP? Germany?

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Re: Another 230sl restoration project (France)
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2021, 20:47:41 »
I left it in on my (similar) project

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Re: Another 230sl restoration project (France)
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2021, 20:48:55 »
Just take it of, clean and install new filter. Not too difficult

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Re: Another 230sl restoration project (France)
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2021, 22:13:08 »
Where did you send the FIP? Germany?

No i sent it to a recognized pro in France: http://www.clinique-electro-diesel.fr/
1965 230 SL
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1990 Porsche 911/964 carrera 4 SOLD
2020 Harley Davidson Fatboy
2018 Harley Davidson Street Bob SOLD
2003 Harley Davidson Road King Classic SOLD
2017 Harley Davidson softail Slim SOLD
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Re: Another 230sl restoration project (France)
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2021, 05:55:45 »
And… this one ?
Also related to cooling system. I guess it’s the thermostatic timer device.

Good / easy / necessary to remove ?
Note the very bas condition of the connections…

This one I believe comes off by loosening the large central bolt.
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Re: Another 230sl restoration project (France)
« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2021, 08:49:52 »
For  the linkage  rod : i did that last week to replace the 2 bushes of the cross member
I used a light press 
(May be your shaft is different from mine ? )
PS: where did you send your parts for plating ?  The guy who did that here has retired recently :-\
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Re: Another 230sl restoration project (France)
« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2021, 11:40:13 »
For  the linkage  rod : i did that last week to replace the 2 bushes of the cross member
I used a light press 
(May be your shaft is different from mine ? )
PS: where did you send your parts for plating ?  The guy who did that here has retired recently :-\

Concerning the rod, it’s the one which is inside the final bracket, at the end of the rod over the rocker cover…

For the plating business, it’s in valence. I guess you could find closer to you. Good luck 👍
1965 230 SL
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1990 Porsche 911/964 carrera 4 SOLD
2020 Harley Davidson Fatboy
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Re: Another 230sl restoration project (France)
« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2021, 21:17:27 »
It's imperative that you immerse those injection pipes in diesel oil for as long as possible so as to avoid internal corrosion after the plating process. Once they corrode inside they are scrap.

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Re: Another 230sl restoration project (France)
« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2021, 08:05:07 »
It's imperative that you immerse those injection pipes in diesel oil for as long as possible so as to avoid internal corrosion after the plating process. Once they corrode inside they are scrap.
Thanks

I already understood that I couldn’t use any of the other pipes due to inside corrosion. One thing I didn’t understand is why the plating is only on the outside of the pipe and not inside ?
By electrolytic process I thought the inner part would also be plated but… apparently no 🤔🤔🤔
1965 230 SL
1991 Porsche 911/964 carrera 2
1990 Porsche 911/964 carrera 4 SOLD
2020 Harley Davidson Fatboy
2018 Harley Davidson Street Bob SOLD
2003 Harley Davidson Road King Classic SOLD
2017 Harley Davidson softail Slim SOLD
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Re: Another 230sl restoration project (France)
« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2021, 08:06:53 »
For  the linkage  rod : i did that last week to replace the 2 bushes of the cross member
I used a light press 
(May be your shaft is different from mine ? )
PS: where did you send your parts for plating ?  The guy who did that here has retired recently :-\
Finally I could remove the rod from its bracket by pulling it with the help of a Vice
The bushes are worn, I’ll change them all…
« Last Edit: August 06, 2021, 11:16:42 by Figoulu »
1965 230 SL
1991 Porsche 911/964 carrera 2
1990 Porsche 911/964 carrera 4 SOLD
2020 Harley Davidson Fatboy
2018 Harley Davidson Street Bob SOLD
2003 Harley Davidson Road King Classic SOLD
2017 Harley Davidson softail Slim SOLD
2008 Harley Davidson Softail Fatboy SOLD

My youtube channel #lfgdf

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Re: Another 230sl restoration project (France)
« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2021, 08:12:51 »
I post other pics showing various parts that I dismantle to check what needs to be changed and what can be sent to the plating shop…

One very interesting thing is the fuel pressure regulator that can be open to change the membrane if necessary… and we know it could be the cause of a running rich engine…
« Last Edit: August 06, 2021, 11:17:29 by Figoulu »
1965 230 SL
1991 Porsche 911/964 carrera 2
1990 Porsche 911/964 carrera 4 SOLD
2020 Harley Davidson Fatboy
2018 Harley Davidson Street Bob SOLD
2003 Harley Davidson Road King Classic SOLD
2017 Harley Davidson softail Slim SOLD
2008 Harley Davidson Softail Fatboy SOLD

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Re: Another 230sl restoration project (France)
« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2021, 08:20:48 »
I carefully numbered the parts I’ll leave at the shop… a good friend of mine said… “did the car stand under the water as the Titanic ?” 😂😂😂😂
1965 230 SL
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1990 Porsche 911/964 carrera 4 SOLD
2020 Harley Davidson Fatboy
2018 Harley Davidson Street Bob SOLD
2003 Harley Davidson Road King Classic SOLD
2017 Harley Davidson softail Slim SOLD
2008 Harley Davidson Softail Fatboy SOLD

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Re: Another 230sl restoration project (France)
« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2021, 16:36:02 »
My last video on my channel is online today:
https://youtu.be/VlhvtOTluXo
1965 230 SL
1991 Porsche 911/964 carrera 2
1990 Porsche 911/964 carrera 4 SOLD
2020 Harley Davidson Fatboy
2018 Harley Davidson Street Bob SOLD
2003 Harley Davidson Road King Classic SOLD
2017 Harley Davidson softail Slim SOLD
2008 Harley Davidson Softail Fatboy SOLD

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Re: Another 230sl restoration project (France)
« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2021, 18:28:13 »
But I watched it  two days ago!

Good going, making good progress.
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1968 Ford Mustang 302 V8
1961 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Sprint Coupe 1600
1962 FIAT 1500S OSCA convertible
1972 Lancia Fulvia Coupe 1.3
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