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MikeSimon

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Looking for early 300SE or 300d owner
« on: February 22, 2021, 01:31:40 »
Does anybody own a really early, i.e.: 1961 300SE?
« Last Edit: February 23, 2021, 21:05:12 by MikeSimon »
1970/71 280SL Automatic
Sandy Beige
Parchment Leather
Power Steering
Automatic
Hardtop
Heated Tinted Rear Window
German specs
3rd owner

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Re: Looking for early 300SE owner
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2021, 01:34:25 »
I own a 1964 W112.

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Re: Looking for early 300SE owner
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2021, 01:41:55 »
Thanks. Will not do. Trying to locate a 1961. Or a 220 1961/1962 with power steering option.
1970/71 280SL Automatic
Sandy Beige
Parchment Leather
Power Steering
Automatic
Hardtop
Heated Tinted Rear Window
German specs
3rd owner

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Re: Looking for early 300SE owner
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2021, 15:08:05 »
Mike, try asking on fintail.org.
1963 220se Cabrio
1968 280se Coupe

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Re: Looking for early 300SE owner
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2021, 15:47:51 »
What is it exactly that you are looking for?

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Re: Looking for early 300SE owner
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2021, 16:18:39 »
I have some, contact me if you like.
Joe Alexander
Blacklick, Ohio
1969 Dark Olive 280SL
2002 ML55 AMG (tow vehicle)
2002 SLK32 AMG (350 hp)
1963 404 Mercedes Unimog (Swedish Army)
1989 flu419 Mercedes Unimog (US Army)
1998 E430
1974 450SLC Rally
1965 220SE Finback

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Re: Looking for early 300SE owner
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2021, 20:22:35 »
O.K., here is what I need.
As some of you may know, I worked for "Vickers" the manufacturer of the power steering pump for the W113. I stuck my neck out and promised to write an article about p/s at Daimler Benz for the
Pagoda magazine. It is coming together (very slowly). My old records show that Vickers started manufacturing the pump in late 1962 for the 1963 models.
The first car that had p/s standard was the W112 300SE in 1961, with options in the 220S,SE.
These early pumps should have tags that show that they were manufactured in the US, before production was moved to Bad Homburg for 1963.
I would like to get a shot of one of these early pump tags. Anyone?
1970/71 280SL Automatic
Sandy Beige
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Power Steering
Automatic
Hardtop
Heated Tinted Rear Window
German specs
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Re: Looking for early 300SE owner
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2021, 00:03:57 »
I'll take a look
Joe Alexander
Blacklick, Ohio
1969 Dark Olive 280SL
2002 ML55 AMG (tow vehicle)
2002 SLK32 AMG (350 hp)
1963 404 Mercedes Unimog (Swedish Army)
1989 flu419 Mercedes Unimog (US Army)
1998 E430
1974 450SLC Rally
1965 220SE Finback

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Re: Looking for early 300SE owner
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2021, 00:32:17 »
I just looked, all of mine say Bad Homburg. Hopefully Joe can help

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Re: Looking for early 300SE owner
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2021, 12:42:11 »
Mike is this any help?

I Googled ----> https://www.google.com/search?q=Pump+Tags+for+Vickers+Pump+on+300SE&client=safari&hl=en-US&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjfx-7G2f7uAhWHHM0KHRH4AgUQ_AUIDCgC&biw=1072&bih=670&dpr=1

and a lot of images came up, have a look.

Dieter

Thanks, Rolf-Dieter!

The vast majority of these pumps are industrial hydraulics or mobile pumps. Many V10 or V20 truck units. Anything painted blue is not a passenger car power steering pump. Anything on a vehicle manufactured after late 1962/early 1963 came out of Bad Homburg
1970/71 280SL Automatic
Sandy Beige
Parchment Leather
Power Steering
Automatic
Hardtop
Heated Tinted Rear Window
German specs
3rd owner

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Re: Looking for early 300SE owner
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2021, 21:04:23 »
Well, thanks to Gary (GM) and one of his contacts, I learned that power steering as an option did not start with the "Fintails" in 1961 but even earlier in 1957 with the 300d W189.
So, if someone has one of these, that will do too.
1970/71 280SL Automatic
Sandy Beige
Parchment Leather
Power Steering
Automatic
Hardtop
Heated Tinted Rear Window
German specs
3rd owner

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Re: Looking for early 300SE or 300d owner
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2021, 21:21:25 »
Boy, I wish I had P/S on my '60 220SE Ponton coupe! Steering is a bear when parking.

Mike, I belong to the IPOG Ponton group and have posted a message on that site and see if anybody has one of these.

Wallace
« Last Edit: February 23, 2021, 21:27:28 by wwheeler »
Wallace
Texas
'68 280SE W111 coupe
'60 220SE W128 coupe
'70 Plymouth Roadrunner 440+6

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Re: Looking for early 300SE or 300d owner
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2021, 14:44:10 »
Boy, I wish I had P/S on my '60 220SE Ponton coupe! Steering is a bear when parking.

Mike, I belong to the IPOG Ponton group and have posted a message on that site and see if anybody has one of these.

Wallace

Wallace, try parallel parking a W111 Cabrio without power steering....I finally threw in the towel and had a shop in the UK install an electric system whose origins are Japanese, I believe.  Works a lot better and is barely visible for the purists.
Hans
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Re: Looking for early 300SE or 300d owner
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2021, 17:18:19 »
I have heard about those electric units and that they work pretty well. Also have those for Pontons.

Mike, I did hear back from someone on IPOG and trying to retrieve his message. Hopefully good news. 
Wallace
Texas
'68 280SE W111 coupe
'60 220SE W128 coupe
'70 Plymouth Roadrunner 440+6

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Re: Looking for early 300SE or 300d owner
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2021, 20:36:18 »
Thanks, Wallace!

Hans: Your 1963 220SE Cabrio was available with P/S, why didn't you retrofit it with original parts?
1970/71 280SL Automatic
Sandy Beige
Parchment Leather
Power Steering
Automatic
Hardtop
Heated Tinted Rear Window
German specs
3rd owner