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Re: Valve Cover Sticker
« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2020, 21:29:11 »
Try this one.
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Re: Valve Cover Sticker
« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2020, 21:41:36 »
Thank you. I have been looking for this sticker for about 5 years now. Then Mike showed me how it should look like some time ago. Now you made it.
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Re: Valve Cover Sticker
« Reply #27 on: February 08, 2020, 21:42:49 »
Alpinaltd,

You da man🤣👍

I just downloaded Coreldraw and was going to give it a shot😜  You have done a better job than I ever could.

Now,  I onto fixing my 2nd computer monitor. I have to replace all the capacitors😜
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Re: Valve Cover Sticker
« Reply #28 on: February 08, 2020, 21:44:20 »
My decal came from a restoration workshop that got all the left over parts etc from a closed MB dealership some time ago and these decals were with the job lot.


Don’t know if it is specific to w113.


It’s measurements are 73mm x 73 mm
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Re: Valve Cover Sticker
« Reply #29 on: February 08, 2020, 22:47:35 »
This is really exciting! We are almost there! We need a red 1 and 2 at the drawings of the inlet and exhaust valve and the corresponding numbers at the valve clearances. And on more red "flag" with whatever it says on it at the upper distributor vacuum connection.
I will try to take a better close-up of my decal at daylight tomorrow to see if we can make out these details. Some of it is faintly visible.
thanks a ton everybody and especially alpinaltd for coming through. In the meantime, you have to think about how much you want to charge for this. 8)
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Re: Valve Cover Sticker
« Reply #30 on: February 08, 2020, 23:03:29 »
Mike, one ignition timing is, perhaps, with, the other without vacuum... is it not?
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Re: Valve Cover Sticker
« Reply #31 on: February 09, 2020, 09:15:07 »
Just to please the exacting Mrfatboy ;)
« Last Edit: February 09, 2020, 13:50:10 by alpinaltd »

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Re: Valve Cover Sticker
« Reply #32 on: February 09, 2020, 11:41:46 »
Quote from: Pawel66
.../...one ignition timing is, perhaps, with, the other without vacuum.../...
This is indicated by the little red marking to the far right, on the black distributor figure. Vacuum tube attached or lifted
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Re: Valve Cover Sticker
« Reply #33 on: February 09, 2020, 13:43:33 »
Well, the question is: is the vac tube supposed to be connected at 4,500 rpm or not. I think my decal showed it to be, but not sure. Will check again.
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Re: Valve Cover Sticker
« Reply #34 on: February 09, 2020, 16:02:47 »
Looking at the decal in daylight - with a magnifying class - I am still not 100% sure.
It looks like the upper image of the vacuum connection to the distributor shows a very faint red mark. And the rpm spec seems to be 750-800 or even 850, which is different to what I thought first.
However: Considering that nobody has actually seen one of these and there seem to be no originals around, I think was alpinaltd has done is as close as one could ever get and I would take that any time over any of the alternatives available!
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Re: Valve Cover Sticker
« Reply #35 on: February 09, 2020, 16:12:13 »
@mikesimon

Can you post a wide shot of your decal and valve cover so we can get a better idea of location and placement? Thx
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Re: Valve Cover Sticker
« Reply #36 on: February 09, 2020, 16:26:27 »
Sure. Here you go. I think the location is probably very much standard, just below the second star on the cover. The size is square - not rectangular - at 75mm x 75mm
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Re: Valve Cover Sticker
« Reply #37 on: February 09, 2020, 16:46:12 »
Re-sized to 75 x 75mm.  The choice is yours. You have a selection.

best.

DM
« Last Edit: February 10, 2020, 10:21:42 by alpinaltd »

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Re: Valve Cover Sticker
« Reply #38 on: February 09, 2020, 16:55:12 »
I wuold like, again, to thank alpinaltd and Mike for this sticker! This is fantastic!

Theorising: the idle ignition setting resembles 051 setting. We have the table saying the idle value is measured with vacuum. High rpm value (3000 in the table, 4500 on the sticker) is shown in the table without vacuum (no vacuum there anyway at this rpm range). I can imagine the red "pipe" on sticker at idle showing vacuum connection. But this may be me making up things.
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Re: Valve Cover Sticker
« Reply #39 on: February 09, 2020, 18:22:30 »
Pawel: You are correct, I think. I assume the remnants of red show the "disconnected" vacuum tube like in this decal:
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Re: Valve Cover Sticker
« Reply #40 on: February 09, 2020, 19:08:36 »
Given all the choices and remarks, here is what I would go with. Final answer. 8)
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Re: Valve Cover Sticker
« Reply #41 on: February 09, 2020, 19:16:18 »
To me,  the two red lines on the upper right distributor seems to denote two separate vacuum hoses.
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Re: Valve Cover Sticker
« Reply #42 on: February 09, 2020, 20:16:36 »
If this kind of pictogram was used elsewhere, the designers of the labels were probably consistent in what they were showing for given series of labels. So that may be it.
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Re: Valve Cover Sticker
« Reply #43 on: February 09, 2020, 20:31:44 »
Unless we find a better original of the sticker on my car, anything is more or less a guess. For anybody that is interested in a repro of that particular sticker should consider that it is probably not correct for any U.S. or other export 280SL. Again, while my motor is an original 130 983, the cylinder head (original on the engine) is somewhat weird. It says 280SEL/SL on it, has casting number 130 016 17 01 and a compression of 9.0.
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Re: Valve Cover Sticker
« Reply #44 on: February 09, 2020, 21:46:49 »
I have been looking for the valve cover Euro sticker for some time and this one and the one posted by WRe are the only two I found. Seems others do not recall other stickers for Euro cars. They are both original and have the correct descriptions. They look like they are both correct, just two different versions for Euro engines.
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Re: Valve Cover Sticker
« Reply #45 on: February 09, 2020, 23:36:32 »
Well, alpinaltd aka DM needs to let us know what he needs from us to do these. I would take 4 stickers for myself. 2 for my 2 valve covers and 2 for back-ups
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Re: Valve Cover Sticker
« Reply #46 on: February 09, 2020, 23:47:16 »
Well, alpinaltd aka DM needs to let us know what he needs from us to do these. I would take 4 stickers for myself. 2 for my 2 valve covers and 2 for back-ups

He just provides the PDF file. It's up to you print them yourself.
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Re: Valve Cover Sticker
« Reply #47 on: February 10, 2020, 13:12:51 »
Bummer!!! Who prints a vinyl decal that is oil/gas resistant? Pawel - what are you going to do?
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Re: Valve Cover Sticker
« Reply #48 on: February 10, 2020, 13:21:47 »
I have used this vinyl paper with a home inkjet printer. So far it has worked well for my engine decals. They have held up to the heat from the valve cover and coolant tank. Can't go wrong for $8😜



https://www.amazon.com/Cricut-Printable-Vinyl-for-Die-Cuts/dp/B00NMCU9ZO/ref=asc_df_B00NMCU9ZO/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=167153351039&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=754306002361996262&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9031312&hvtargid=pla-309545193833&psc=1
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Re: Valve Cover Sticker
« Reply #49 on: February 10, 2020, 13:48:16 »
I was going to print the sticker myself on a white foil and cover it with self-adhesive clear foil and/or (depending how it looks) spray some clear varnish on it - depending how it would look like. I was going to print, say, 5 or 10 of them, not to worry that they wear off...

I have the laser printer.

If you say this is a "no no" from oil etc. resistance point of view, then I would begin search of a printers who can do it for me on an oil resistant material.
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