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Benz Dr.

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Early shifting auto.
« on: December 09, 2019, 05:47:54 »
My problem is the transmission shifts up and down properly and the kick down works. It seems to shift up too early and into high gear at about 90 kph regardless of how much throttle I use except for kick down. Throttle is going wide open so that's not it. I haven't looked at vacuum yet.  My info is that the trans was rebuilt.

Anyone run into this problem and what did you do to fix it?
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Cees Klumper

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Re: Early shifting auto.
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2019, 00:14:12 »
My Bronco started having this problem last week after we re-attached the vacuum line from the intake manifold to the transmission pressure modulator that had popped loose. As a result of which it was not upshifting at all anymore. Reattached it and now it upshifts too soon. I need to check on this, but am pretty sure these issues are usually vacuum pressure related. The pressure modulator on the MB trans is adjustable as far as I know so it should be a relatively easy fix if that is the issue. Of course I am just an amateur so am grateful for others to weigh in.
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Nicolas Aristodemou

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Re: Early shifting auto.
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2019, 04:49:27 »
I would also think it is a transmission pressure issue. If the engine vacuum to the modulator is present and correct then it could be that the transmission pressure is probably low. It can be measured and set correctly as described in the technical manual under automatic transmission, or easier still is to try an increase the pressure on modulator by turning the adjusting screw 1-1.5 turns clockwise. Make a mark of the original setting so that you could always revert to it in case it doesn’t have the anticipated result.
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Re: Early shifting auto.
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2019, 05:50:22 »
Yes, I am in agreement with " naristodemou" , try a bit more modulator pressure.


 
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Re: Early shifting auto.
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2019, 15:56:44 »
Will do and report back with results.
1966 230SL 5 speed, LSD, header pipes, 300SE distributor, ported, polished and balanced, AKA  ''The Red Rocket ''
Dan Caron's SL Barn

1970  3.5 Coupe
1961  190SL
1985   300CD  Turbo Coupe
1981  300SD
2013  GMC  Sierra
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1967 250SL
1970 280SL
1988 560SEC

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Re: Early shifting auto.
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2019, 23:46:43 »
Hi Benz Dr.

I built a transmission modulator pressure gauge setup that I'm happy to loan you.  I'll ship it to you if you'd like. 
Bob Comstock
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Re: Early shifting auto.
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2019, 06:37:08 »
Thanks Bob. I'll let you know if we need it.
1966 230SL 5 speed, LSD, header pipes, 300SE distributor, ported, polished and balanced, AKA  ''The Red Rocket ''
Dan Caron's SL Barn

1970  3.5 Coupe
1961  190SL
1985   300CD  Turbo Coupe
1981  300SD
2013  GMC  Sierra
1965  230SL
1967 250SL
1970 280SL
1988 560SEC