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lreppond

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Country and dealer codes
« on: September 06, 2019, 22:25:38 »
According to my data card my country and dealer code is 07048035.
From what Ive been able to ascertain, the first “0” refers to 1970 (mine was built in Nov 1970)
The next three digits “704” refers to the car being delivered to the USA. 
The next four digits “8035” refers to the US dealer code but no where on the net can I find a reference to this dealer.  I think it was purchased at Smothers European in Santa Rosa, CA (renamed MB of Santa Rosa).  Does anyone have this dealer code info?   
1971 280 SL
576G red/141 Beige
4 speed
GP stereo
Family owned since new (father —> son)

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Re: Country and dealer codes
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2019, 21:42:38 »
I do not have the dealer code info, but i do know the history of the MB dealer in Santa Rosa Ca. My car was ordering in 68 through Torvick Imports and was delivered as a 69 280SL in 1969. Torvick imports as they were at the time turned into Torvick Datsun. I would have to look a delivery data plate to see if there is a dealer code on it.
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lreppond

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Re: Country and dealer codes
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2019, 05:42:21 »
You are spot-on.  Torvick was the MB dealer in Santa Rosa.  (I don’t know how I came up with Smothers???)
The dealer code should be on the top line of your data card.  On mine, it’s the fifth box from the left.   If I’m correct and it was delivered to Torvick both your car and mine should have the same number, except yours should start with an eight if built in 1968.
Please share whatever you find. 
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576G red/141 Beige
4 speed
GP stereo
Family owned since new (father —> son)

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Re: Country and dealer codes
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2019, 06:47:35 »
Hi, - my wild guess -
attached you find the actual MB dealer codes. If you look at the numeration - I assume they never changed it - your car was delivered to Colorado.
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Re: Country and dealer codes
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2019, 15:38:35 »
Interesting, the data card for my car, a 1970, shows 07037660. Following the logic of WRe's attachment, presumably a dealership in Michigan? Thanks to all for this interesting piece of Pagoda detail.
Lee Backus
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1978 450SL (disassembled for paint)
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lreppond

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Re: Country and dealer codes
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2019, 17:24:18 »
I’m afraid WRe’s dealer list doesn’t reflect the codes used for them in the 1960’s.  Most of those dealerships are long gone and replaced by multi dealership corporations.  I know with certainty that my father purchased the car locally (CA) though the possibility exists that it may have initially been delivered to an out of state dealer and transferred to CA. 
1971 280 SL
576G red/141 Beige
4 speed
GP stereo
Family owned since new (father —> son)

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Re: Country and dealer codes
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2019, 17:48:29 »
I’m afraid WRe’s dealer list doesn’t reflect the codes used for them in the 1960’s.  Most of those dealerships are long gone and replaced by multi dealership corporations.   
This is true. Both Dealers from whom I bought my two SL's from (Hollywood MB and Carwell Corp.) are long gone. If anyone has a dealer code of 5771, your car came from Carwell Corp. which was located in Hermosa Beach CA. Unfortunately the 250's data card containing the dealer code for Hollywood MB remained with the car when I traded it for the 280.

John
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Un Restored, All Original, including the paint
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4 speed manual, PS. 76707 miles
6775 miles since awoken from her 20+ yr "nap" in 2010

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Re: Country and dealer codes
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2019, 20:37:09 »
According to my data card my country and dealer code is 07048035..........

Irepond, I never payed much attention to the Aufstrag-Nr. on my data card but I thought I would look at it after reading this thread.  My number is 87074276. 

It is interesting to note that this number is assigned to the car from the order date and carries through to the data card .  I have attached below my acknowledgment copy of the order dated in December of 1968 and the matching dealers confirmation copy.  Both show the Aufstrag-Nr. as issued on the data card months later in February of 1969. 

As the number indicates the car was ordered in 1968 (first digit -8) and was for European delivery (next three digits 707) the dealers number code, 4276, completes the number.   This dealership no longer exists. 

I expect that the numbers in WRe's list are from some later period.  In his list 4000 series numbers are in Arkansas and not Aabama. Please excuse the poor copies.  These are scans of old documents in my computer with me here in Italy.  The original documents are back in Alabama.



     
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Re: Country and dealer codes
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2019, 15:48:36 »
The mystery continues.... Dug out my data card and it states : 87059250.    Ordered in 68 (first digit)  705 (USA) country code  9250 Dealer code  (Torvick in Santa Rosa Ca.)
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Re: Country and dealer codes
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2019, 18:27:07 »
Thanks Dean.  I guess I was wrong!   My dad lived in Rutherford, CA  from 1968–> and I would have figured Santa Rosa would have been the dealer closest to him.  Who knows maybe he did buy it there but the car was transferred from another dealer.  I’m hellbent on figuring this out and with the help of other members, maybe I will!   
1971 280 SL
576G red/141 Beige
4 speed
GP stereo
Family owned since new (father —> son)

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Re: Country and dealer codes
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2020, 22:41:26 »
Anyone know the dealer code/codes for Phoenix Az in 1966? Thx!
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Re: Country and dealer codes
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2020, 06:54:59 »
Hi Desertpagoda, i can tell you this,as 15 July 1965 for Phoenix,
the dealer was,---Phoenix Motor Company,inc,
225W, Indian School Road, phone 602-264-4791.
Then in Dec 1966,in Tucson, was,
Bill Edel Motors,inc,
2019 N Stone ave, phone 602-623-7549.
I have an original authorized Mercedes- Benz dealer list map   1966
and directory Mercedes-Benz dealers USA 1965.
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Re: Country and dealer codes
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2020, 08:22:25 »
Bit late to the party but assuming my car was delivered straight to Hollywood MB, and not transferred, the dealer code should be 6931
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Re: Country and dealer codes
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2021, 21:49:56 »
Mine is a USA car (704).
Does anyone know dealer 3456 in the US?
I'm guessing Chicago area since the second owner bought it in Chicago.
Thanks,
Mark
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Re: Country and dealer codes
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2021, 14:47:09 »
I am trying to figure out my dealer code
77131145

7- 1967
713- Manual says this code was only used for a short time, ?
1145- cannot find this anywhere?

If someone has more knowledge of this I would appreciate some input

Thanks JN
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Re: Country and dealer codes
« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2021, 15:29:46 »
I don't know if anyone is still paying attention to this thread, but I am trying to find out what the dealer name and location was for my 280SL that was manufactured in August of 1969. The DataCard shows the number 9704 so, manufactured '69, sold in USA and the Dealer Code follows, 1836.

I was led to believe that the original dealer was in Texas, by one of the people on the Title. Unfortunately the title does not go all the way back to the original buyer. So, I am trying to piece things together from the Dealer onwards, if I can.

Best,
RB