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Chassis / Frame Dimensions
« on: September 05, 2019, 12:05:25 »
Hi All,

I bought a Tru-Way frame dimension chart for 1963 220b, 220Sb and 220Seb models.

Does anybody know if this is also suitable for the 220se coupe and cabrio?

I wanted to check some dimensions and the first one I took was between the bolt centres which locate the front leaf springs. According to the diagram this should be 750mm (375mm from each bolt centre to the car centerline). When I measured mine it was an inch wider (775mm)

I would be VERY grateful if anybody out there with a Coupe or Cabrio could measure and confirm the distance on their vehicle.

Regards

Peter
1963 220se Cabrio
1968 280se Coupe

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Re: Chassis / Frame Dimensions
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2019, 18:32:23 »
Hi All,
Just giving this one a push.
Regards
Peter
1963 220se Cabrio
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Re: Chassis / Frame Dimensions
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2019, 04:59:32 »
These specs are also available in The MB Factory Technical Data Manuals.
Joe Alexander
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1969 Dark Olive 280SL
2002 ML55 AMG (tow vehicle)
2002 SLK32 AMG (350 hp)
1963 404 Mercedes Unimog (Swedish Army)
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Re: Chassis / Frame Dimensions
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2019, 09:45:58 »
Hi Joe,

Thanks as always for finding the time to reply. If this is what people refer to as the BBB I do have an electronic copy but cannot find this information listed. If anybody has a BBB with the chassis dimension details for a W111 220SE/C please could you PM me?

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Peter
1963 220se Cabrio
1968 280se Coupe

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Re: Chassis / Frame Dimensions
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2019, 11:15:08 »
I have one of those books and Joe is right, the information is there: 382 ± 1 mm for 220 SEB/C. Obviously this is still narrower than yours so that's a little puzzling.
The book states 375 mm  ± 1 mm for 220 B, SB, SEB 1st version
The book is not the BBB, it's much smaller and contains only specifications, not procedures.
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Re: Chassis / Frame Dimensions
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2019, 13:25:35 »
Dave,

Thanks a lot mate, you have just made my day. The reference I had said 375mm +/-1mm.

382mm +/-1mm certainly swings it back in my favour. If I measure it real carefully I might just about creep in to that.

I will be looking for one of these manuals if anybody has one for sale.

Regards

Peter
1963 220se Cabrio
1968 280se Coupe

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Re: Chassis / Frame Dimensions
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2019, 14:44:31 »
Are we talking about this book??
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Re: Chassis / Frame Dimensions
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2019, 14:47:43 »
These Booklets are often found on Ebay. Be sure to get the correct one since they were published almost every year or two for the different models. There is an electronic file around somewhere that someone made of one of these. Might be in the our Technical Manual?
Joe Alexander
Blacklick, Ohio
1969 Dark Olive 280SL
2002 ML55 AMG (tow vehicle)
2002 SLK32 AMG (350 hp)
1963 404 Mercedes Unimog (Swedish Army)
1989 flu419 Mercedes Unimog (US Army)
1998 E430
1974 450SLC Rally
1965 220SE Finback

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Re: Chassis / Frame Dimensions
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2019, 14:48:29 »
Yes that is the book!
Joe Alexander
Blacklick, Ohio
1969 Dark Olive 280SL
2002 ML55 AMG (tow vehicle)
2002 SLK32 AMG (350 hp)
1963 404 Mercedes Unimog (Swedish Army)
1989 flu419 Mercedes Unimog (US Army)
1998 E430
1974 450SLC Rally
1965 220SE Finback

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Re: Chassis / Frame Dimensions
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2019, 15:03:47 »
Good job......I have just paid 180 USD for it !!
1963 220se Cabrio
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Re: Chassis / Frame Dimensions
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2019, 21:00:24 »
Ouch! seems a bit expensive.
Joe Alexander
Blacklick, Ohio
1969 Dark Olive 280SL
2002 ML55 AMG (tow vehicle)
2002 SLK32 AMG (350 hp)
1963 404 Mercedes Unimog (Swedish Army)
1989 flu419 Mercedes Unimog (US Army)
1998 E430
1974 450SLC Rally
1965 220SE Finback

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Re: Chassis / Frame Dimensions
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2019, 12:03:59 »
Everything associated with these cars is a bit expensive !

On the technical front does anybody know the correct method to determine the centre line of the car? The frame dimensions are referenced to this. It would be possible therefore to have the correct distance between the bolts (which is what I was measuring) but unequal values for the two sides with respect to bolt to centre line, meaning the chassis is not straight.
1963 220se Cabrio
1968 280se Coupe