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How to tell a 5 speed
« on: July 12, 2019, 20:46:01 »
I have been presented to me a supposed ZF 5 speed.

Can anyone tell me what to look for to determine if it is in fact a true ZF 5 speed. 

The number on the case is 111 261 05 01.  My info says that it is a 4 speed.  Am I wrong?  Can someone post a picture, if possible, of a 5 speed.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: How to tell a 5 speed
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2019, 21:29:10 »
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.../...Can anyone tell me what to look for to determine if it is in fact a true ZF 5 speed.../...
There is a manufacturers plate with the serial No of the box on its left side (see pic attached)
"ZF" is cast into the housing and the alloy rear end piece also.
« Last Edit: July 12, 2019, 21:33:54 by mbzse »
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Re: How to tell a 5 speed
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2019, 22:07:38 »
Sure looks like the one I have.  One a 4 speed, reverse is to the left beside first gear. On a 5 speed, reverse is over to the right and below fifth gear. Pretty hard to confuse them.
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1966 230SL 5 speed
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1981  300SD
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Re: How to tell a 5 speed
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2019, 23:08:12 »
Naa.. Rockingchair....,

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Can anyone tell me what to look for to determine if it is in fact a true ZF 5 speed.

The number on the case is 111 261 05 01.  My info says that it is a 4 speed.  Am I wrong?

You are wrong.
That's an ordinary MB 4-speed gear box in the car you look at, no true 5-speed.
(5-speed probably only because there is also a reverse ...)
The real ZF 5-speed as pictured does not carry any MB numbers, only ZF numbers.
It's larger and much longer than the ordinary 4-speed.


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Re: How to tell a 5 speed
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2019, 09:42:33 »
Doesn’t it go faster than a 4 speed?
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Re: How to tell a 5 speed
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2019, 11:45:57 »
Doesn’t it go faster than a 4 speed?
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Re: How to tell a 5 speed
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2019, 18:33:20 »
I can always tell if it's a 5 speed transmission. I just can't tell it much.
1966 230SL 5 speed, LSD, header pipes, 300SE distributor, ported, polished and balanced, AKA  ''The Red Rocket ''
Dan Caron's SL Barn
1966 230SL 5 speed
1970  3.5 Coupe
1961  190SL
1985   300CD  Turbo Coupe
1981  300SD
2013  GMC  Sierra
1965  230SL
1967 250SL
1970 280SL
1990 560SEC

 

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