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MikeSimon

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What is it?
« on: February 25, 2019, 20:18:15 »
I just transferred this from the previous owner to a shipping outift.
Who has seen one before?
1970/71 280SL Automatic
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Re: What is it?
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2019, 20:24:04 »
Sure, Michael,

This is an (about) 1972 Alfa Romeo Montreal !

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfa_Romeo_Montreal

Ah, uhem ... 1970 - 1977 the say ....


Beautiful car,
never made those V8's later anymore.

I was told its very hard to come by parts....

Enjoy your new find !

Best,
Achim
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Re: What is it?
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2019, 21:01:03 »
 8) 8) I forgot to say that Europeans were not allowed to respond.... ;D ;D I remember seeing quite a few when I lived over there. Actually, my brother-in-law owned one...
The V8 engine was based on the Tipo33. 2.6L. Rather small for a V8.
1970/71 280SL Automatic
Sandy Beige
Parchment Leather
Power Steering
Automatic
Hardtop
Heated Tinted Rear Window
German specs
3rd owner

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Re: What is it?
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2019, 05:13:10 »
8) 8) The V8 engine was based on the Tipo33. 2.6L. Rather small for a V8.

Yes, but it sure could make a joyful noise unto the Lord when opened up!  ;^)
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Re: What is it?
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2019, 05:32:37 »
Anyone know how it received its '' Montreal '' name?
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Re: What is it?
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2019, 06:35:17 »
     As a matter of interest, I have owned one of these for several years now. The name came from the fact Alfa Romeo were asked to design a car for display at Expo '67 in Montreal. They did so, and displayed two, without intentions to put them in production. The public acclaim was such, they reconsidered, and announced their decision to produce, hence the name. The actual production model was considerably different from the display cars, both in body and  power unit. The engine was a high performance twin-cam 2.6 litre V8, with mechanical fuel injection and electronic ignition.Contrary to popular belief, the engine was not the same as their Tipo 33 race car, but the basic configuration was used. Virtually no engine parts are interchangeable. Several (non factory) road tests achieved over 140 MPH. The time from concept to production was too long, the first models being 1971. This was a unfortunate,as the fuel crisis hit around that time, and they were thirsty cars !!  The styling was not universally acclaimed, and the sales after the first year declined quite rapidly, with a total production of app. 3900.
 They were never marketed in North America.
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Re: What is it?
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2019, 13:25:18 »
Dale:
where and when did you get yours and how did you get it legal in Canada?
1970/71 280SL Automatic
Sandy Beige
Parchment Leather
Power Steering
Automatic
Hardtop
Heated Tinted Rear Window
German specs
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Re: What is it?
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2019, 19:14:03 »
  Hi Mike. I purchased it out of Virginia in November 2008.  It was sold new in Italy, and subsequently was in in Florida for a number of years. Import to Canada was legal, as it was over 25 years old. I did have a problem, however, as in the Province of British Columbia,  at that time,we had to pass what was euphemistically called Air Care, which was required before it could be registered . After three attempts I did finally manage to get it certified - the Spica FI could not really be considered "clean burning" !!
   Cheers,   Dale.
1971 280 SL Five Speed (Getrag) Tobacco/Cognac.
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Re: What is it?
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2019, 13:59:04 »
Cool, Dale. Considering the Montreal was never imported to the U.S. you have yourself a gem there. One of the reasons the buyer of this one was willing to pay a premium for it.
When I looked at the car, there was another rare jewel stuffed in between a bunch of others. It was too crowded to take pictures but the owner said he had some that were taken earlier.
So he finally sent them. I definitely want to get my hands on this. It is street legal.
1970/71 280SL Automatic
Sandy Beige
Parchment Leather
Power Steering
Automatic
Hardtop
Heated Tinted Rear Window
German specs
3rd owner

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Re: What is it?
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2019, 22:49:51 »
That's a beauty and probably a bit rarer than a Montreal.  The Lancia also had just a bit more competition success than the ALFA.  How tall are you?  I'm 5'11'' and couldn't shoehorn myself into the Stratos I saw in the car park of the Donnington Museum back in 1990 (when there wasn't quite as much of me to shoehorn as there is now).  An early Europa rivals a Stratos for tight fit, but at least one could adjust the seat travel in the Europa. The only adjustment one has on a fixed seat Stratos is to dive down into the foot well and adjust the pedal set!
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Re: What is it?
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2019, 23:04:11 »
A big understatement to say that the Lancia Stratos had just a bit more competition success than the Alfa is like saying that the 300sl is just a bit more collectable than a 107. They were the pocket rocket of the rally world and the most collectable.


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Re: What is it?
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2019, 00:25:07 »
I am only 5'8" and if I wait another year or so, I will be only 5'7". I have yet encounter a car that was built too small for me.....too expensive, yes, a lot of them.
This one here, I can get for under 400K. It is a HF Strada, obviously modified to look like Sandro Murani's factory rally car.
The engine is slightly "hopped up" from 190 to 235hp. Nothing radical. Still very streetable and reliable enough for a collector car that is being driven.
I have a potential buyer who would be interested in it for 420k and if he sticks to his guns and the owner accepts my offer, it would be an easy flip.
I would like to drive it for a week or so.....
1970/71 280SL Automatic
Sandy Beige
Parchment Leather
Power Steering
Automatic
Hardtop
Heated Tinted Rear Window
German specs
3rd owner