Author Topic: Kangol Retractable Seatbelt (Reflex) Mounting Opinions  (Read 4658 times)

Tyler S

  • Associate Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • USA, CA, Encinitas
  • Posts: 1613
Kangol Retractable Seatbelt (Reflex) Mounting Opinions
« on: January 07, 2016, 01:56:16 »
Hello All, I have sourced a pair of NOS Kangol retractable seatbelts. The same ones a few of you got from that "old military stock" seller in the UK. My question is more of wanting feedback on where to install the reels. Do I follow the MB installation guide and "showcase" the fact they are Kangols? Or do I go for the under the parcel shelf route and keep the rear tidy? The reels are a shot peened silver color, not too bad looking. My brain is fighting itself on this one. If any of you have installed these either way, let me know your opinions. Pics are great too. May help me decide.
Thanks, Tyler
1968 (67) 250sl. 4 speed manual. DB180 Silver
1955 220 Cabriolet A. White Grey
2019 E450 Wagon. Majestic Blue
1936 Ford PU Flathead V8. Creme on tan interior.
1989 Volkswagen T3 Westfailia Campmobile. Dove Grey (blue)

66andBlue

  • Full Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • USA, CA, Solana Beach
  • Posts: 4709
Re: Kangol Retractable Seatbelt (Reflex) Mounting Opinions
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2016, 04:15:13 »
Tyler,
I am not quite sure what you mean with "Do I follow the MB installation guide and "showcase" the fact they are Kangols?"
Mercedes offered 3-point static Kangol belts as a special option but never any retractable seatbelts. See: http://www.sl113.org/wiki/Interior/Seatbelts
Initially these belts showed the Kangol label but later ones had the MB star on the buckle.
Obviously, many owners have installed retractable seatbelts and in my view the best option is to mount the retractor spool under the parcel shelf.
Come by and take a look to see how this looks.  ;)
« Last Edit: January 07, 2016, 04:21:57 by 66andBlue »
Alfred
1964 230SL manual 4-speed 568H signal red
1966 230SL automatic 334G light blue (sold)
1968 280SL automatic (now 904G midnight blue)

Tyler S

  • Associate Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • USA, CA, Encinitas
  • Posts: 1613
Re: Kangol Retractable Seatbelt (Reflex) Mounting Opinions
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2016, 05:26:39 »
Alfred, I was referring to the 1970's MB service bulletin for installing/adapting 3 pt retractable belts. It shows installing the reels on the front or inboard lower side of the b-pillar, leaving the reel exposed. Some have done this with no name brand or later MB belts as well as installing them under the parcel cover. Just was wondering if anyone has installed the Kangol retractable belts in this manner. Maybe I'm thinking too hard about it. I guess basically my question is if the old vintage style Kangol reels would be a good or bad thing to look at.
1968 (67) 250sl. 4 speed manual. DB180 Silver
1955 220 Cabriolet A. White Grey
2019 E450 Wagon. Majestic Blue
1936 Ford PU Flathead V8. Creme on tan interior.
1989 Volkswagen T3 Westfailia Campmobile. Dove Grey (blue)

66andBlue

  • Full Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • USA, CA, Solana Beach
  • Posts: 4709
Re: Kangol Retractable Seatbelt (Reflex) Mounting Opinions
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2016, 04:03:40 »
Tyler,
that is interesting, I would like to see what is in the 1970's bulletin. Do you have a copy that you can share?
I only know of the instructions that were issued in 1989 and which are in the Wiki: http://www.sl113.org/wiki/Interior/Seatbelts
By most account the described procedure is rather brutal, requiring a lot of cutting and welding.
With respect to your question about the Kangol installation I only know that our Polish members (e.g., Flyair) installed them it but no photos or a detailed descriptions were provided:
http://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?topic=17897.0
Alfred
1964 230SL manual 4-speed 568H signal red
1966 230SL automatic 334G light blue (sold)
1968 280SL automatic (now 904G midnight blue)

Tyler S

  • Associate Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • USA, CA, Encinitas
  • Posts: 1613
Re: Kangol Retractable Seatbelt (Reflex) Mounting Opinions
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2016, 18:40:30 »
Alfred, Yes that was the bulletin I was referring to. Guess I was a Decade or so off. Referring to the pictures (figures 4 and 5) on the bulletin, it shows them mounted on the bottom front or inboard side of the B-Pillar. You are right. A lot of hacking has to be done. I think I am going to try mounting the retractor on the cross member behind the seat to start with. Using the available threaded hole. Im almost 6' so if it limits seat travel enough I will go ahead and move it under the Parcel shelf cover. I'll get some pictures as I go along :)
1968 (67) 250sl. 4 speed manual. DB180 Silver
1955 220 Cabriolet A. White Grey
2019 E450 Wagon. Majestic Blue
1936 Ford PU Flathead V8. Creme on tan interior.
1989 Volkswagen T3 Westfailia Campmobile. Dove Grey (blue)