Author Topic: Color  (Read 6526 times)

hpm

  • Guest
Color
« on: July 28, 2015, 10:53:59 »
Hi.

I am restoring my 230 SL 66 model which had a "kind of" yellow color (I have acid bathed the car body). The car was repainted (in the late 90's) from its origin white. I really liked the car in yellow but I am not sure if "yellow" color(s) was painted on the Pagodas from the 60's.   
Do anyone know if Pagodas was delivered in some shade of yellow? 

Thanks
hpm

mario

  • Guest
Re: Color
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2015, 12:46:33 »
My car when I bought it was a light yellow hue.  I am in the process of restoring the vehicle now and chose 172G Anthracite Grey Metallic.  Here is a pic of my car before I sent it off to be restored.  The technical manual on this site has a section on color codes.  Perhaps you can find a match there.  Do you have a picture of your car before you acid bathed it? 



Jonny B

  • Pagoda SL Board
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • USA, CA, San Marcos
  • Posts: 4134
Re: Color
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2015, 15:32:45 »
Was the yellow the original color. If so, then the code for the paint is on the small plate by the hood latch. It is a three digit code followed by either a "G" or an "H" (initials for the paint manufacturer, Glasurit or Herbets.
Jonny B
1967 250 SL Auto, DB 568
1970 280 SL Auto, DB 904
1966 Morris Mini Minor

hkollan

  • Associate Member
  • Gold
  • *****
  • Spain, Castilla-La Mancha
  • Posts: 519
Re: Color
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2015, 19:23:49 »
Hi,

The  yellow "Stickel Pagode" has been known for some years here in Europe. I believe I first saw
the car displayed In TC Essen 5-6 years ago.
It was fully restored and painted in 378 Sonnengelb. (Sun yellow) appears to be an original color.

Link to picture here,
https://www.flickr.com/photos/andyboohh/4628710979/in/photostream/

Hans
« Last Edit: July 28, 2015, 20:36:15 by hkollan »
Hans K, Cuenca, Spain
1968 280 SL 387 Blue met., parchment leather
1971 280 SL 462 Beige met, Brown leather
1968 280 SL 180 Silver, Red leather
1964 300 SE Lang 040 Black w/Red leather
1985 500 SL 735 Astral Silver w/Black leather
1987 560 SEC 199 Black met., Black leather

114015

  • Full Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • Germany, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Tecklenburg
  • Posts: 2075
Re: Tweety
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2015, 23:48:55 »
Quote
The  yellow "Stickel Pagode" has been known for some years here in Europe. I believe I first saw


No,
Pagodas were never yellow,
at least this could not regularly be ordered.
Yellow, even Joachim Stickel's "Tweety" in 378 H Sonnengelb, was custom made, not factory.

Don't let you fool by the paint plate of his car; this is a reproduction and not original for this VIN 000123.

Joachim Stickel built up this very early car from scrap. It is his company car and he chose that funny and  striking color only to effectively advertise his fine service.

There was a factory 280 SL painted in reflective signal yellow in the 60ies in order to investigate the conspicuity of such a car in the traffic during bad weather or so. This special car is well described in the usual MB literature.



Achim
(with only original paint codes)
Achim
(Germany)

114015

  • Full Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • Germany, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Tecklenburg
  • Posts: 2075
Re: Color
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2015, 23:50:07 »
Quote
My car when I bought it was a light yellow hue.

Looks to my like 670 (hellelfenbein)




Achim

Achim
(Germany)

hkollan

  • Associate Member
  • Gold
  • *****
  • Spain, Castilla-La Mancha
  • Posts: 519
Re: Tweety
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2015, 05:44:49 »

No,
Pagodas were never yellow,
at least this could not regularly be ordered.
Yellow, even Joachim Stickel's "Tweety" in 378 H Sonnengelb, was custom made, not factory.

Don't let you fool by the paint plate of his car; this is a reproduction and not original for this VIN 000123.

Joachim Stickel built up this very early car from scrap. It is his company car and he chose that funny and  striking color only to effectively advertise his fine service.

There was a factory 280 SL painted in reflective signal yellow in the 60ies in order to investigate the conspicuity of such a car in the traffic during bad weather or so. This special car is well described in the usual MB literature.



Achim
(with only original paint codes)

Thanks for making that clear Achim. But was 378 H Sonnengelb an actual factory color that could have been special ordered back in the day?

Hans
Hans K, Cuenca, Spain
1968 280 SL 387 Blue met., parchment leather
1971 280 SL 462 Beige met, Brown leather
1968 280 SL 180 Silver, Red leather
1964 300 SE Lang 040 Black w/Red leather
1985 500 SL 735 Astral Silver w/Black leather
1987 560 SEC 199 Black met., Black leather

Naj ✝︎

  • Associate Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • United Kingdom, Surrey, New Malden
  • Posts: 3163
Re: Color
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2015, 19:59:50 »
Hi.

I am restoring my 230 SL 66 model which had a "kind of" yellow color (I have acid bathed the car body). The car was repainted (in the late 90's) from its origin white. I really liked the car in yellow but I am not sure if "yellow" color(s) was painted on the Pagodas from the 60's.   
Do anyone know if Pagodas was delivered in some shade of yellow? 

Thanks
hpm

This one?
68 280SL

Neil Thompson

  • Full Member
  • Silver
  • ****
  • United Kingdom, England, Louth
  • Posts: 383
Re: Color
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2015, 17:38:16 »
If this is the colour I have one in original colour, I will look at the code and report back, I think it,s light ivory but could be wrong

Neil
1964 230 SL RHD DB304 Horizon Blue
1957 190 SL RHD DB180 Silver
1988 R107 300 SL RHD DB199 Blue Black
1978 C123 230C 2dr Auto RHD Silver

mbzse

  • Full Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • Sweden, Stockholm, Stockholm
  • Posts: 1748
Re: Color
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2015, 18:12:29 »
Quote from: griffin1404
.../...this is the colour I have.../...I think it,s light ivory
Looks a lot like solid colour 670 light ivory (Hellelfenbein) to me
/Hans in Sweden
.
/Hans S

hpm

  • Guest
Re: Color
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2015, 08:08:23 »
Thanks all.

I realize that our car cannot continuing being yellow if we choose to paint it with an original W-113 color.

Attached some pictures of the car in various light and from the acid bath process.

Thanks again.
hpm

P.S. More questions will follow.


 

Garry

  • Full Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • Australia, Victoria, Kyneton and Brisbane Queensland
  • Posts: 5192
  • Audit Committee
Re: Color
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2015, 09:08:41 »
Yep, can see why you want to pick a new colour. The dipped body looks good.

Garry
Garry Marks
Melbourne/ Kyneton, Brisbane. Australia
1969 MB 280SL 5 speed RHD SOLD.
1965 MB 230SL Auto RHD Lt Blue 334G, Top 350H, 213 Leather, Tourist Delivery.
1972 MB 280CE Auto RHD 906G Blue Grey
2005 MB A200.
2006 MB B200
2019 Izuzu DMax 4x4 with Slide-on camper.
2022 Volvo XC40 Twin Electric