Author Topic: Engine cuts out when steering on full lock  (Read 7920 times)

loizou

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Engine cuts out when steering on full lock
« on: September 20, 2010, 21:00:32 »
My 230sl with power steering has an unusual problem when the steering wheel is turned from lock to lock the engine cuts out and the red light on the dash comes on.
Any ideas or cures or what is causing this.
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jeffc280sl

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Re: Engine cuts out when steering on full lock
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2010, 23:33:11 »
Louis,

I assume this happens when the car is at idle and not moving.  Turning the steering wheel during this condition places a very high demand on the power steering pump and in turn your engine which stalls out.  I'd start by changing the power steering fluid.  I'd check the lines for leaks and bulges.  If this doesn't help I suggest you consider rebuilding the power steering pump.  You can do a search on this topic where you will find numerous posts.

loizou

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Re: Engine cuts out when steering on full lock
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2010, 23:43:58 »
Yes Jeff this happens when the car is not moving but just ticking over also I forgot to mention that it is idling at 500 -600 revs
What should it be idling at
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Re: Engine cuts out when steering on full lock
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2010, 00:27:10 »
The rpms seem too low and the additional stress from the pump may cause the stall.  I recommend bumping up the idle to 750 and then check to see if it happens.
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jeffc280sl

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Re: Engine cuts out when steering on full lock
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2010, 01:43:52 »
Louis,

As Jesse says your idle is too low.  I assume you have your car in drive with an idle that low.  I know the later SLs have a solenoid that picks up the idle in this situation.  Does your car have an idle solenoid on the accelerator linkage?

jeffc280sl

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Re: Engine cuts out when steering on full lock
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2010, 01:46:57 »
Search for "constant speed solenoid" for info

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Re: Engine cuts out when steering on full lock
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2010, 05:06:13 »
Yes, the idle is too low and this is most likely the problem as long as the engine is in tune and the engine is healthy.

Sedans of the era had a hydraulic piston which kicked the idle up a bit when the car was at idle with the steering activated. The piston ,which was on the intake manifold, acted on the engine linkage and  had a metal line which came from the PS box.  I don't think any of the SL engines had this.  But it looks like steering at idl,e is a period of very high demand on the engine. Too low an idle will cause the engine to stall.   
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