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Land Yachts & Water Yachts?
« on: January 22, 2010, 01:16:10 »
I suspect that if you appreciate your W113 Land Yacht, that there are probably other members out there that have water yachts - antique or classic motor or sail boats?  I have had various Herreshoff designed sail boats, including a 1928 Herreshoff 12 1/2 that I have kept in Marblehead and Maine. 

So if I'm not playing with my Pagoda, I'm varnishing my classic boat - any others out there?

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« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2010, 11:39:34 »
Yep, I built my own in my back shed over a couple of years but sold it last year.  Now want to build another if the Minister of Finance will allow me to.
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« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2010, 12:52:12 »
Nice sloop - or is it a Cutter?  Here's mine on the trailer, and the inside.

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« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2010, 14:07:58 »
Doug

What make and size of boat is that?  Its beautiful and the smallest full keel sailboat I have ever seen.  I had an International 470 my wife and I use to take out onto Lake Ontario but thats not really a classic.  Long gone now but I yearn to get back on one.
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« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2010, 15:52:53 »
Hi Marcus -

My 'yacht' is a Herreshoff sloop design - 18' LOA, with about a 900 lb. keel which makes it very steady and safe for kids to sail in heavy weather.  The orginal design is from the early 1900's. 

It's not a 'racing' boat - built for some speed and some comfort - kind of like our W113's.  When I finish varishing the seats in the spring - I touch up my wood trim on my dash before I put away the brush.  8)

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« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2010, 21:35:05 »
Doug,

Funny you should mention Herreshoff.  My wife and I were visiting New England this fall and stopped into the Herreshoff Marine Museum and the America's Cup Museum in Bristol.  Quite a story and brilliant designers.  These guys were doing this with pencil and paper and didn't have the high tech equipment and computers used today. 

How long have you had your "yacht" and where did you find it.  I would love to find something that can be easily handled single handed so my wife can lie on the deck and relax.  :)
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« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2010, 00:07:50 »
Can't wait for spring/summer and sailing on the Chesapeake (best of both worlds; on the Chesapeake and on sister and brother-in-laws boat) a 44 foot Mason.





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« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2010, 02:11:20 »
I don't think life can get any better than that.  Driving up to your slip in your Pagoda with the sun shining and your lady on the arm.  Jumping onto your sloop or what ever it may be and spending the day on the water.

Putting out the spinnaker is something I never did get the hang of. :'(  Only 3 months before the snow starts its retreat. :D
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« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2010, 06:57:42 »
Doug,
That Herreshoff sloop sure is a really pretty design. I looked at some of the different Herreshoff designs as I liked the shape that they all tended to follow when deciding to build mine.  I could not find any design I was happy with that had the same full keel, mine has 300kg in it and I rigged it as a lug sail yawl. Really was difficult to sail on my own, Minister of Finance did not really enjoy sailing. Maybe I should have checked the Ministers specifications before I built it. :D 

Still had a great time with it and am now planning to build a smaller boat for fishing with a small inboard diesel motor
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« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2010, 12:27:30 »
Garry - with the sails up I do see that it's a yawl, but the hull and mast have the lines of a traditional cutter.  I like the colored sails!  Building a boat is a labor of love - as is restoring a classic car!

Marcus - your comment on driving up in the Pagoda to the slip, and jumping aboard the sloop with your 'girl' - that's exactly what I do in the summer up in Maine, with my wife and my Herreshoff - how cool is that!!!

Fernando - the e-bay listing of the 'gull wing' air boat - that's a "must have" to complete the collection!

280SE guy - the 44' Mason looks like a great yacht, and the Chesapeake Bay is an outstanding crusining ground.  I think the Chesapeake Oyster workboat are neat - long and thin to maximize speed with a small motor.

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« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2010, 14:08:38 »
I better get my atlas out .  that 44 footer on the chesapeake looks like the way to go  280 se guy

cheers rob
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« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2010, 16:16:28 »
I better get my atlas out .  that 44 footer on the chesapeake looks like the way to go  280 se guy

cheers rob

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« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2010, 17:46:25 »
My brother lives just a couple minutes north of Solomons in Lusby.  I'll have to check out Kismet the next time I'm down there!  I see an excuse for a Pagoda drive in the country...
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« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2010, 18:57:51 »
My brother lives just a couple minutes north of Solomons in Lusby.  I'll have to check out Kismet the next time I'm down there!  I see an excuse for a Pagoda drive in the country...

Mike, I've been to Lusby many times visiting the Ace Hardware store there when we needed a tool or whatnot. Solomon's is a very nice clean lttle city close to the bay. Check out the Dry Dock Restaurant (http://www.zahnisers.com/RESTAURANT.htm) for some good food and drink while your there
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« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2010, 22:48:54 »
Found it 280 se guy. Look faboulous bay for sailing. Large enough bay for some good trips, although sheltered from the ocean, I imagine there could be some extreme conditions at times.  It's seems to stradle a few states.  Does it ice over in parts?

Need to post a nice pic of the pagoda on the bay with the yacht in the background

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« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2010, 15:00:30 »
Rob, the bay doesn't ice over where the boat is kept but it does get pulled for the winter and stored on land. I've heard that it can freeze up in the Baltimore, MD area but not all that often. A couple of people I know said that if it does freeze their marina people would put some bublers in by their boats during those rare instances.

We've sailed when the wind was blowing 30-35 knots and gusting up to 45 (wind to our back) in 8 to 9 foot waves. The boat was sure footed as we "surfed" up the bay with the main and jib full up. There was no other boat in sight so we had the whole bay to ourselves.

I'd post a picture of a Pagoda, maybe you could bring yours by,  ;D

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Besides, there is already an expert resident photographer of "Pagoda's by the Sea" here I believe.

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« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2010, 14:09:22 »
Would love to drive my pagoda across America. Unfortunately  a big pond between me and you. That bay looks like a great place to visit

Thats a nice looking engine bay.
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« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2010, 21:05:29 »
My father returned home from a business trip to England 1n 1967 with a  car built ca. 1955, a Daimler Touring Coupe, a 2 door sedan with a luggage shelf where the back seat should have been. The car was a Daimler saloon chassis with a one-off hand formed aluminum body and black leather interior trimmed in red croccodile, with a full set of red croccodile luggage fitted to the rear compartment. The roof had a non opening glass sky light that was surrounded with tiny light bulbs that light up at night. The story was that this car was built for Lord Docker, the chairman of the Daimler works (G.B. not Daimler Benz), and was speciffically made to be transported on the deck of his yacht. The finish was said to originally have been silver coins ground to a powder and mixed into the paint. The feature I remember the most were the window lifts. They were manually operated by a lever that with an impossibly small amount of effort would raise or lower the glass by moving this lever 6 inches to the front or rear. It had RHD of course and the coach work was very very cool, I thought it make James Bond's DB3 look like an overstuffed Morris Minor.
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« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2010, 23:28:30 »
"black leather interior trimmed in red croccodile, and made to be transported on the deck of his yacht".....WOW!    :o

Now I just need to find 2-3 croc's for my Pagoda, and get a bigger yacht, and I would be in the same class as this fellow! 

Thanks Al!

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« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2010, 00:44:39 »
It's a lot less pretty than your sailing boats, but I still have the 1966 Boston Whaler Nauset with mahogony console that I played around in as a kid.  And this week my wife an I are taking a course and testing for our skipper's licenses.  So cars and boating certainly go together in our household.
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« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2010, 00:59:14 »
I also have (2) Boston Whaler Classics with all the mahogany trim - 13" and 15" - they are an essential part of looking good on the water, and a blast to drive!  8)