I HOPE HE GETS HIS 75 GRAND!!!

[TR]

Chad, Mike -- You may have already seen this, but check out the web site of Motoring Investments: http://www.motoringinvestments.com/mbz.htm

Take a peek at the 4th car down the list ($99.5K), then click on the details of the car.  If I'm doing the math right the asking price of this 280SL is $65K less than what last owner put into it (25 + 140 - 99.5 = 66.5).

I think I saw somewhere on this site recently the results of a survey saying W113s are now the number 4 desirable foreign collector car.  In terms of the car being common...well, we all know Idaho isn't a densely populated state, but the Treasure Valley / Boise metro region now has a population north of 500,000, and I haven't seen another W113 here in long time.

Tom in Boise
'71 280SL 4-spd, signal red w/lt. tan interior, restored/enhanced

[n/a]

I agree, Chad.  I couldn't sleep at night with a car that expensive.  And, my wife would sure get annoyed at me when I parked at the far end of the parking lot where ever we went.  I like to enjoy my cars.  I've had older MG's and Jags, as well as, my 280sl.  $30K is about the limit for my "comfort" level.
Cheers,
Don

quote:Originally posted by Chad

Also, I have owned $100,000+ classics, but found it difficult to enjoy them to the same extent as a Pagoda because they were very rare.  My w113 is probably not ever going to be nearly as nice as many, but for $30k I can replace it with another and this allows me to truly enjoy driving it around.  I would probably be somewhat paranoid about parking lot dings and community driving in a $75k pagoda.  I am a cheapo!!!  

-CD-
1967 230SL, 113.042 10
1983 300TDT, 123.193

[Chad]

I love the interesting discussion this thread has generated, more interesting than it was intended, I believe.  Anyway, I believe that we have different notions of what a rare car is, and what a popular and desireable car is.  Rare cars IMO are not well know to be desireable. They are not often the subject of excellent and helpful forums such as this that is populated by knowledgable and helpful owners.  They are not catered to by multiple suppliers that allow the owner to compare prices and select the better and most original deal. They are not usually found being sold on eBay in numbers of anywhere for one or two to over a dozen at any point in time.  I think that seeing a $12,000 bill for "creation," yes "creation" of a radiator for a 1952 DB2 Aston which was produced in a number of 441 made me think about what rarity is, and realize that I wanted a car to drive that was more common.

But, I think I do agree with you now, the w113 chassis is getting rare and mre expensive and desireable. I love waving at the driveers of the two other w113s in my home town of 60,000 people.  And quite simply, the 230 SL is the most enjoyable fusion of comfort and excitement I have ever driven.  I love them!!

Don, I think $30k is definitely my limit to now.  We are all so lucky to be able to enjoy these cars and also this forum!  



-CD-
1967 230SL, 113.042 10
1983 300TDT, 123.193

[n/a]

Oh, what a shame.  Aren't the hubcaps and the hardtop supposed to be the same color?  Black hardtop should have black hubcaps, correct?  I guess nuttin' is perfect in this world, eh?

Cheers,
Don

[tuultyme]

The seller does have back hubcaps to go with the black top.  He is also suppling red hubcaps to use without the hard top which I believe is nice as most people "off the street" do not know this important fact about the two tone color option. How much additional weight does the sun roof add to the hard top?

Bruce; 268Blaugrun(green) 1970 280SL; IL

[hauser]

The car has been relisted with a starting price of $40,000.00 with no reserve.http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4577511424

1969 280sl 5 spd
Gainesville, Fl.

[TR]

I can't believe there have been no bidders on this car.

Tom in Boise
'71 280SL 4-spd, signal red w/lt. tan interior, restored/enhanced

[Douglas]

I'm guessing they'll come out of the woodwork at the last moment. "Sniping," I believe, is the term.

Douglas Kim
New York, NY
280 SL #016220

[norton]

My guess is that one or more of the high end dealers will try to grab it, and it will be on there showroom floor within a month with $15 to $20K added to the price.

Mike Halleck
Chesterfield Mi
71 280SL
68 250SL (parts car)
94 E320 Coupe

[zanone]

I emailed this seller and told him I am a 113 owner and interested in his car at the new price but asked for data plate and data card information which seems like a reasonable request. He responded to my email saying that he didn't like to type but that the car was all it is shown to be and to "have a nice day". I think he is miffed that he didn't get his $75K and anyone should want the car now at $40K without question. I guess someone will.

Dennis,
I am covered up with e-mails about this pagoda and I do not like to type.
I have ever thing you have requested
I have a lot of  113 accessories I would sell to you if you buy the car( besides the ones in the e-bay ad.
Have a nice day!
mkw

[norton]

Just sitting at $40,000 and no bids, come on one of you guys should pick this up, What about Tom S you don't have one this color yet do you?

Mike Halleck
Chesterfield Mi
71 280SL
68 250SL (parts car)
94 E320 Coupe

[Jonny B]

Less than 20 minutes to go, and still no takers....

Jonny B
1967 250SL Auto

[hauser]

Auction has ended with zero bids.  Maybe it's just the wrong time of year.

1969 280sl 5 spd
Gainesville, Fl.

[Chad]

It maybe.

-CD-
1967 230SL, 113.042 10
1983 300TDT, 123.193

[zanone]

No, I was ready to buy the car but the seller doesn't like to type. He typed me to tell me that when I asked only for data plate and data card info. Oh well.

[Mike Webster]

Dennis,

You're absolutely correct. Some people don't seem to understand that in today's world few things sell themselves. If you want it sold, you have to SELL it.

Mike
1966 230sl silver/red

[Chad]

Sounds like a businessman and not an enthusiast.  Sounds frustrated that the market doesn't support his original desire for $75k, or $40k even.  Something is only worth the value that another person will pay for it. There are other really nice cars and good luck!

-CD-
1967 230SL, 113.042 10
1983 300TDT, 123.193

[TheEngineer]

I also asked a few questions and did not get all my questions anwered. My car is just like it, except the hard top has no sun roof. At the last MB meeting here, there was a fellow from Tacoma who wanted to sell his 230SL in nice condition, He's the original owner and had all the documentation. He wanted 27k, I think. eBay is a funny place: I once wanted to sell my Bernina sewing machine. It cost over 2k new and I had used it very little. I felt, I should get at least $650 for it. Two times, nobody came up to my price, one fellow wrote me, wanted to buy it for parts, offered $350. Later, it sold for $1k. eBay is a funny place that way.

[Douglas]

This is exactly why ebay is a very risky place to sell a high-end SL. It cheapens it to be on the block with so many other SLs of all levels, particularly when it doesn't sell and has to be re-listed as this car was.

If you're going to go the ebay route, you have to at least show a lot of detail to make it obvious that this is a special car that is more than just a car with an unusual hardtop.

Douglas Kim
New York, NY
280 SL #016220

[Chad]

I've been following along, too. Ebay is tempting I suppose because it is quick for buyer and seller, however, I think it's no place to buy or sell a car you are enthusiastic about and will treat lovingly or have treated lovingly.

-CD-
1967 230SL, 113.042 10
1983 300TDT, 123.193

[norton]

It's baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack And at $30,000 this time.[:0]

Mike Halleck
Chesterfield Mi
71 280SL
68 250SL (parts car)
94 E320 Coupe

[zanone]

I bid $30K on it but knew it wasn't reserve which is probably closer to his "Buy Now" price. I'm just a little reluctant to bid higher when I can't get simple info like data plate and card codes.  If he is a  wealthy "Gullwing Guy" who doesn't have time for us "Pagoda People" I almost understand but he seems to want to sell it, in a way. This is the last cryptic email I got from the seller (initials only).

">
> Dennis,
> If I had taken the time to type you all the data card info,What would you had done with it? Maybe you could have taken a photo of the info I typed to you!
> Have a nice day!
> mkw

[n/a]

I spoke with this guy twice,I ask him if the numbers matched,hard top ,Engine lid,soft top hatch,He told me the hard top came from another car he purchased in europe just for the sunroof,would not confrim numbers for engine lid or soft top hatch,I also asked for pictures of under carriage, spotwelds in the front engine bay, trunk,rear valance of the car, asked if the engine number matched data card I was told by him the car is everything it is in the pictures on ebay. I told him i was a serious buyer and if the car checked out,That i felt we could make a deal,Only if he could provide the information i asked him for.(Same answer The car is everything it is in the pictures on ebay}. My feelings Run don't walk.

[A Dalton]

http://pagoda113.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/2076001521/m/946607893/r/9421072801#9421072801

[n/a]

It is relisted again. This time is buy it now for $40K and a little less on the reserve. Got one bid already.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-SL-Class-280SL-Mercedes-Benz-SUNROOF_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6338QQitemZ4579121353QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

On the same note, Can you guys believe these prices?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=4577713596&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=8002504967&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT


Louis 70 280sl Red Auto