Author Topic: What a beauty! Yellow Pagoda  (Read 27547 times)

Drewtee

  • Full Member
  • Silver
  • ****
  • England, Kent, Sevenoaks
  • Posts: 392
What a beauty! Yellow Pagoda
« on: April 10, 2010, 18:31:14 »
Pics of this car may already of been circulated but i couldn't find a link. This car was at Essen this year for 150000 Euro. The discription said it had a 5 speed but the gear knob was from a 4 speed. Not convinced it is the best choice of colour!
« Last Edit: April 11, 2010, 00:01:26 by 280SL71 »
Andy Tee

Rhd 5 speed 728h with parchment interior
White Californian 280sl LHD
W111 3.5 Cab and Coupe both RHD

Drewtee

  • Full Member
  • Silver
  • ****
  • England, Kent, Sevenoaks
  • Posts: 392
Re: What a beauty!
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2010, 18:32:13 »
3 more..
Andy Tee

Rhd 5 speed 728h with parchment interior
White Californian 280sl LHD
W111 3.5 Cab and Coupe both RHD

Drewtee

  • Full Member
  • Silver
  • ****
  • England, Kent, Sevenoaks
  • Posts: 392
Re: What a beauty!
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2010, 18:32:55 »
and finally...
Andy Tee

Rhd 5 speed 728h with parchment interior
White Californian 280sl LHD
W111 3.5 Cab and Coupe both RHD

jameshoward

  • Associate Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • United States, New Jersey (formerly of London)
  • Posts: 1570
Re: What a beauty!
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2010, 18:35:47 »
I am convinced it's not the best choice of colour. Terrible.

Engine bay looks nice from what I can see on my laptop screen.
James Howard
1966 LHD 230SL

hauser

  • Guest
Re: What a beauty!
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2010, 18:49:13 »
We have/had a member that had a yellow Pagoda.  He nicknamed it "Tweety".

RobMarks

  • Associate Member
  • Senior
  • ***
  • Australia, NSW, Sydney
  • Posts: 228
Re: What a beauty!
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2010, 22:03:54 »
they will see you coming from a mile away!  Having had a yellow car once in my lifetime, i would say it's an aquired taste , not for everyone but I think it looks greAt!
 There is a paler version yellow of the r107 that I think looks good, and generally a bargin when resold! hmm
rob
RobMarks

1966 230SL
1983 380SL
1989 190E Sportline Lorensir
1990 190E Sportline
1995 E280
2003 SL500

66andBlue

  • Full Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • USA, CA, Solana Beach
  • Posts: 4709
Re: What a beauty!
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2010, 22:24:27 »
I am not sure whether a Pagoda was ever available for purchase in yellow - there is no paint code listed in the our technical manual - but M-B produced a yellow/orange one in the late 60s for extensive safety tests with different paints. It is quite well described in the book "Faszination SL - W113".  Here is a scan showing the 280SL that was used.  The car in Essen looks a bit mor lemon-yellow but Tweety was quite similar to this test car.
[As an aside, when I look at this picture in the book I always wonder whether the publisher (MB) realized that it is also an advertising for FIAT.  :)]
« Last Edit: April 10, 2010, 22:32:37 by 66andBlue »
Alfred
1964 230SL manual 4-speed 568H signal red
1966 230SL automatic 334G light blue (sold)
1968 280SL automatic (now 904G midnight blue)

wd

  • Guest
Re: What a beauty! Yellow Pagoda
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2010, 04:44:39 »
I sold cars to get through school and off and on while trying to be... an artist shall we say.  :-\    I worked at a Ford and Nissan dealership.  Our order manager was crazy for brown, any color that seemed to look brown and in every concievable two tone combination.  What an ordeal it was selling those things, dozens and dozens of brown trucks and tbirds and z cars.  But as salesmen say, "there is a butt for every seat".  Now you take this yella car... well the yellow has a little too much green in it...knock it down/mellow it out a bit and put a cognac interior in and it would look great. If I could afford it, well lets take her for a spin. But I suppose my opinion is to be taken lightly as I have a 542 dark red or is it brown SL.  Hey the price was right.  
« Last Edit: April 11, 2010, 04:51:30 by wd »

Peter van Es

  • Honorary Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • Netherlands, North Holland, Nederhorst Den Berg
  • Posts: 3997
Re: What a beauty! Yellow Pagoda
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2010, 12:17:21 »
This car is listed at 150 K EURO... that's over $200K! How about that for values... And this car isn't even offered by the MB Classic Center, never known for shy pricing, but by Stickel. Reputable, but is that worth the price?

It should have been painted GOLD instead of yellow at that price!

Peter
1970 280SL. System Admin of the site. Please do not mail or PM me questions on Pagoda's... I'm not likely to know the answer.  Please post on the forum instead!

Bernd

  • Guest
Re: What a beauty! Yellow Pagoda
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2010, 15:09:55 »
I noticed there is no radio. Maybe the cost of buying one took the restoration budget over the top. The price could maybe include one with an MP3?  That way one could hook up an ipod that plays subliminal soothing messages to offset the bright color that might otherwise trigger a fight or flight response ;D ;D ;D

I haven't seen it so I really cannot judge, but surely its in fantastic shape, which the pictures obviously indicate.



graphic66

  • Guest
Re: What a beauty! Yellow Pagoda
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2010, 20:56:14 »
The radio deletion plate can cost more than a radio. That might be why such a high price.

Witt

  • Guest
Re: What a beauty! Yellow Pagoda
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2010, 00:37:41 »
......it would drive me bunkers looking at THAT yellow dashboard while driving....

CHEERS !
WITT !

Mike Hughes

  • Full Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • USA, VA, Blue Grass
  • Posts: 1718
Re: What a beauty! Yellow Pagoda
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2010, 03:21:19 »
"Tweety" was a much nicer shade of yellow...
- Mike Hughes  -ô¿ô-
  1966 230SL Auto P/S
  Havana Brown (408)
  Light Beige (181)
  Cream M-B Tex (121)

Nate

  • Associate Member
  • Silver
  • ****
  • Mill Valley, California
  • Posts: 267
Re: What a beauty! Yellow Pagoda
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2010, 19:33:10 »
Reaching for the sunglasses and Advil...
1971 280SL
Arabian Gray / Dark Red Leather

2013 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupe
Black on Black

2013 ML350 4MATIC
Arctic White on Almond Beige
Wife's car that I get to drive

1964 Porsche 356C Coupe
Irish Green on Black
Black Plate CA Car
Unrestored

jacovdw

  • Guest
Re: What a beauty! Yellow Pagoda
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2010, 08:48:02 »
Jeez, that's a bit too yellow for me...  ;D


Carlito

  • Guest
Re: What a beauty!
« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2010, 17:43:30 »
I am not sure whether a Pagoda was ever available for purchase in yellow - there is no paint code listed in the our technical manual - but M-B produced a yellow/orange one in the late 60s for extensive safety tests with different paints. It is quite well described in the book "Faszination SL - W113".  Here is a scan showing the 280SL that was used.  The car in Essen looks a bit mor lemon-yellow but Tweety was quite similar to this test car.
[As an aside, when I look at this picture in the book I always wonder whether the publisher (MB) realized that it is also an advertising for FIAT.  :)]

I'd also never seen a yellow Pagoda before.
But at techno Classica, i looked at the Paint number, and it matched with the yellow on the pagoda, so I do think it was possible. Or he made a plate with the new paint code.

Drewtee

  • Full Member
  • Silver
  • ****
  • England, Kent, Sevenoaks
  • Posts: 392
Re: What a beauty! Yellow Pagoda
« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2010, 17:58:51 »
Here it is
Andy Tee

Rhd 5 speed 728h with parchment interior
White Californian 280sl LHD
W111 3.5 Cab and Coupe both RHD

66andBlue

  • Full Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • USA, CA, Solana Beach
  • Posts: 4709
Re: What a beauty! Yellow Pagoda
« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2010, 18:07:47 »
Here is a photo that Gerard Wuisman posted on the German site indicating that it is painted in code 378 (sun yellow). The color may  look better than it appears in these photos taken with a flash.
Jonny B. what do you know about this paint code?
« Last Edit: April 13, 2010, 18:09:36 by 66andBlue »
Alfred
1964 230SL manual 4-speed 568H signal red
1966 230SL automatic 334G light blue (sold)
1968 280SL automatic (now 904G midnight blue)

Drewtee

  • Full Member
  • Silver
  • ****
  • England, Kent, Sevenoaks
  • Posts: 392
Re: What a beauty! Yellow Pagoda
« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2010, 18:14:16 »
and here is a bad picture of the Vin plate taken on my mobile
Andy Tee

Rhd 5 speed 728h with parchment interior
White Californian 280sl LHD
W111 3.5 Cab and Coupe both RHD

bogeyman

  • Full Member
  • Silver
  • ****
  • USA, NE, Omaha
  • Posts: 338
Re: What a beauty! Yellow Pagoda
« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2010, 21:16:42 »
Wow - 000123 is a really early number.
Maybe they offered this color until they actually saw it in the flesh...
Rick Bogart
1970 280SL Black(040)/Parchment
1969 280SL Silver(180)/Green
1993 500E
1972 350SL
1995 E320 Cabrio

Jonny B

  • Pagoda SL Board
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • USA, CA, San Marcos
  • Posts: 4114
Re: What a beauty! Yellow Pagoda
« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2010, 22:58:22 »
 I searched through my color chip books, and found no listing for DB 378. All the listings around that number are blue shades. I would stick my neck out a bit and say that DB 378 would not have been a yellow shade, some of the color families tended to be in the same run of numbers. For example, most (but not all, I grant you) of the reds run in the 500's.

The only listings for anything close to was DB 624 - yellow, DB 630 (early color) - yellow or DB673 - Sahara yellow, more of a mustard tone, DB 680 heliosgelb and one color chip of DB 1223 verkehrsgelb (this one is close) and is listed as a 1986 color in my Glasurit book.
Jonny B
1967 250 SL Auto, DB 568
1970 280 SL Auto, DB 904
1966 Morris Mini Minor

abe280SL

  • Guest
Re: What a beauty! Yellow Pagoda
« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2010, 05:21:54 »
Yuk on the color....some cars (Porsche 911) look  good in yellow.  I do not think an SL is one of those cars.  I think a color that is not often seeing but looks great with all that chrome...is black.
IMHO
abe

Ulf

  • Associate Member
  • Gold
  • *****
  • Denmark, Fredericksberg, Rungsted Kyst
  • Posts: 838
Re: What a beauty! Yellow Pagoda
« Reply #22 on: April 14, 2010, 07:55:55 »
Looks like something that escaped a crash test...
1965 230 SL in silver (DB180)
1982 Land Rover Series III SWB
2008 Jaguar XF 3.0
2005 Mini Cooper

Naj ✝︎

  • Associate Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • United Kingdom, Surrey, New Malden
  • Posts: 3163
Re: What a beauty! Yellow Pagoda
« Reply #23 on: April 14, 2010, 10:51:36 »
Looks like something that escaped a crash test...

Test Car?

naj
68 280SL

Naj ✝︎

  • Associate Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • United Kingdom, Surrey, New Malden
  • Posts: 3163
Re: What a beauty! Yellow Pagoda
« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2010, 10:57:44 »

....some cars (Porsche 911) look  good in yellow.  I do not think an SL is one of those cars.  
IMHO
abe

Speed Yellow?

naj
« Last Edit: April 14, 2010, 22:36:57 by naj »
68 280SL

Naj ✝︎

  • Associate Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • United Kingdom, Surrey, New Malden
  • Posts: 3163
Re: What a beauty! Yellow Pagoda and then the other!
« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2010, 11:00:47 »
naj
« Last Edit: April 14, 2010, 11:09:06 by naj »
68 280SL

john.mancini

  • Full Member
  • Gold
  • *****
  • USA: Nokomis, FL and Chatham, MA
  • Posts: 624
Re: What a beauty! Yellow Pagoda
« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2010, 14:50:03 »
 :o I just threw up
John
68 280SL 906 Blue 4-sp
69 280SL 906 Blue
70 280SL 904 Blue
70 280SL 571 Red
70 280SL 040 Black 4-sp
66 230SL 162 Blue/Grey 
68 280SL 568 Red 4-sp
69 280SL 304 Horizon Blue
65 230SL 519 Red 4-sp
83 911SC
98 911 cab
56 Ford F100
08 RS60
62 Corvette Fuelie
66 GT350H
67 GT350
70 LT1 conv

Iconic

  • Full Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • USA, IL, Highland Park
  • Posts: 1198
  • ex-Membership Administrator
Re: What a beauty! Yellow Pagoda
« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2010, 17:31:46 »
Naj,
One of those two is not so nice, but I sure like the color combo on the other one.  ;D ;D
1970 280 SL Automatic, USA version, Grey-Blue (906G/906G), Blue leather (245)
1968 SS396 Camaro Convertible (owned since 1977 -- my first car :D)
1984 Porsche Euro Carrera coupe, LSD, SlateBlueMet/Blue
1998 BMW M-Rdstr Estoril Blue
1970 280 SL Automatic, Anthracite Grey-173G, Red Interior-132 - sold

seixever

  • Guest
Re: What a beauty! Yellow Pagoda
« Reply #28 on: May 05, 2010, 11:03:07 »
For 150K euro I'd like to have the original (or a replacement like the original...) windscreen and steering wheel at least!

P.S.  but is possible they'll find someone who could think to buy it a taxi roadster?

reggie

  • Associate Member
  • Silver
  • ****
  • United Kingdom, England, Leeds
  • Posts: 257
Re: What a beauty! Yellow Pagoda
« Reply #29 on: May 05, 2010, 13:03:38 »
ON SPEED i think
Reg
1969 280 5 speed zf 180g

114015

  • Full Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • Germany, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Tecklenburg
  • Posts: 2075
Tweety in Essen
« Reply #30 on: May 10, 2010, 17:44:44 »
On Sat Morning at Essen I had a brief chance to talk to Joachim Stickel about his Tweety-yellow Pagoda.

He was very pleasant and kindly willing to answer my requests.
This is (as you have already realised) a quite early 230 SL with VIN 000123.
The car was originally not Tweety-yellow or something like that. However, the car had a special  paint code anyway (copper like or so), Joachim Stickel told me.

The car was completely scrap and was basically built up to new from nothing. So, that should be an excuse for many things you personally dislike on this one.
J. Stickel restored and "repainted" the car as a sort of "eye catcher". He is basically aware that it will not sell for € 150 K but as often with top class restoration shops (Joachim Stickel is, see www.pagoden-center.de; there is an English access as well) these "prices" are a signal for the future.... I think.

Generally Pagodas are a bit more expensive in Europe than in the US and consider please, motorinvestments.com or comparable top class shops in the US also offer (and obviously sell) their best ones in the  $$ 100'000 region and beyond.



Achim
(Germany)

Mr. Slim

  • Guest
Re: What a beauty! Yellow Pagoda
« Reply #31 on: June 25, 2010, 20:58:48 »
It's the first time I saw a yellow pagoda. Although, I was thinking before what would a yellow pagoda looks like. So, here it is... :-X

pperrysr

  • Guest
Re: What a beauty! Yellow Pagoda
« Reply #32 on: June 29, 2010, 00:54:15 »
I think it is absolutely beautiful.  i have a yellow Maserati Bora...and the color makes it quite unique...
How about the racing corvettes?  Yellow...

Cees Klumper

  • Platinum
  • ******
  • USA, CA, De Luz and Los Angeles
  • Posts: 5524
    • http://SL113.org
Re: What a beauty! Yellow Pagoda
« Reply #33 on: June 29, 2010, 20:00:54 »
I like the color myself, although I am not sure I would actually buy it.

It is my favorite color for several cars: Ferrari 365 GTB and the Acura NSX, among others.
« Last Edit: June 29, 2010, 20:05:16 by Cees Klumper »
Cees Klumper
1969 Mercedes 280 SL automatic
1968 Ford Mustang 302 V8
1961 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Sprint Coupe 1600
1962 FIAT 1500S OSCA convertible
1972 Lancia Fulvia Coupe 1.3
1983 Porsche 944 2.5
1990 Ford Bronco II

perry113

  • Associate Member
  • Gold
  • *****
  • USA, NY, Rensselaer
  • Posts: 671
    • http://picasaweb.google.com/peterperry911113/1970280SECoupe#
Re: What a beauty! Yellow Pagoda
« Reply #34 on: October 15, 2010, 01:13:35 »
I would have never thought of yellow on a Pagoda until seeing this one. I actually like it! I think many are judging negatively because its not an original color and its so unusual.
Peter Perry
1970 911T Bahia Red
1972 911T Albert Blau
1963 220seb coupe barn
1965 230SL Light Ivory automatic
1966 230SL Havana Brown 4 speed Barn Find
1970 280SE living 3.5 donor car

RobMarks

  • Associate Member
  • Senior
  • ***
  • Australia, NSW, Sydney
  • Posts: 228
Re: What a beauty! Yellow Pagoda
« Reply #35 on: October 16, 2010, 06:09:38 »
it's got my vote.  I have seen a couple of paler yellow r107 that I thought of buying once upon a time.   I think the unique-ness and it stands out from that crowd that little bit more than our fabulous cars already do!

rob
RobMarks

1966 230SL
1983 380SL
1989 190E Sportline Lorensir
1990 190E Sportline
1995 E280
2003 SL500

glenn

  • Guest
Re: What a beauty! Yellow Pagoda
« Reply #36 on: October 22, 2010, 03:16:03 »
I met 'Tweety's' owner in AZ or NM about five years ago.  He had it for sale.  Was that Tweety in Essen?

santropezblueSL

  • Guest
Re: What a beauty! Yellow Pagoda
« Reply #37 on: June 13, 2011, 21:58:10 »
I must say I really like that yellow on that SL.  I think it would look better with a tan or brown interior.  My first car ever (when I was 16) was a Lotus Elan, which I painted a yellow very close to this shade, which was a Corvette colour code.  It looked much better in person than in photos, and is a very small car so there is a lot less yellow. I also balanced the yellow with black bumpers and black wheel centers (with silver rims). It had a black interior and roof.  It sold VERY quickly when I advertised it. Yellow is a very popular colour for Lotus, maybe the most popular for Elans.  I would love to have it back again, to park beside my blue Lotus Elan and 906 blue 280SL. Does anyone else out there have a yellow 230-280SL?

Yuk on the color....some cars (Porsche 911) look  good in yellow.  I do not think an SL is one of those cars.  I think a color that is not often seeing but looks great with all that chrome...is black.
IMHO
abe

santropezblueSL

  • Guest
Re: What a beauty! Yellow Pagoda
« Reply #38 on: June 14, 2011, 11:08:49 »
I have a colour listing that names 680 as "sun yellow".  There are at least 5 different yellows in the "600's" of the Mercedes colour codes.  606 maple yellow, 618 mimosa yellow, 673 sahara yellow, 680 sun yellow, 691 light yellow.  I haven't yet found 378 but I would be very surprised if it is not a blue.   

I searched through my color chip books, and found no listing for DB 378. All the listings around that number are blue shades. I would stick my neck out a bit and say that DB 378 would not have been a yellow shade, some of the color families tended to be in the same run of numbers. For example, most (but not all, I grant you) of the reds run in the 500's.

The only listings for anything close to was DB 624 - yellow, DB 630 (early color) - yellow or DB673 - Sahara yellow, more of a mustard tone, DB 680 heliosgelb and one color chip of DB 1223 verkehrsgelb (this one is close) and is listed as a 1986 color in my Glasurit book.