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front caster and rear camber question
« on: January 09, 2019, 19:17:59 »
hello
awhile ago i replaced the front buckle bushings and the rear trailing arm bushings on my 66 230.
the car drove ok after replacing the bushings but i noticed a vibration around 70 mph that would come and go.

so, took the car to my favorite indy shop to get the car aligned.

1. Front.   
we could not get the front caster perfect even by loosening the trans mount plate bolt, the 8 sub frame mount bolts (4 drivers and 4 passenger) as well as the buckle mounting bolt and the eccentric bolt.  applying leverage etc to help but could not get if perfect.
We ended up at 4.3 deg drivers and 3.6 degrees passenger.    I am not sure if there is anything else

I have never changed the upper spring rubber doughnut on the front,  i am not sure if this affects caster or not

2. rear   we were at -1.3 camber so we removed the rear springs and turned the metal spring plate to its highest position.    we eneded up at -.2 or so.
the upper rubber doughut on the spring was changed about 13 years ago,  i do not recall which thickness i used.

i believe i can get upper rubber with different thicknesses.    i was thinking of finding out what i had installed and then going to a thicker rubber doughnut.

the car drove fine home,  no issues.

The other unknown is i know my clunk bushing needs to be replaced. would that impact rear camber?

thoughts on where to go from here or should I leave well enough alone?

photo of the alignment tool after we had messed with the rear camber,  need to drive the car to get things to settle down again.

prior to messing with the rear the caster was 4.2 (drivers)  3.4 (pass) and rear camber was -1.3.


thanks
matt
« Last Edit: January 09, 2019, 20:38:00 by merrill »
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Re: front caster and rear camber question
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2019, 16:17:45 »
hello
so after doing some research in the BBB  it appears there are different alignment values (front) for the SL  depending on if you have power steering or manual.

from the BBB for a manual 230 sl the values are
caster 330 deg +-15  = 315 - 345?
camber  0 deg 10 +-20 = 10 - 30?
toe    0 deg 20 +-10 =  10- 30?

rear camber 145 deg +- 30 = 115 - 185 

the car drives fine now, so i may just not mess with the alignment any more.

matt
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Re: front caster and rear camber question
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2019, 18:15:46 »
Matt,
I believe the rear camber should be 1* positive +- 30’ in order to ensure correct ride height.
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Re: front caster and rear camber question
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2019, 10:11:35 »
Dear Pagoda lovers,

Please finda attached the factory specs of the camber for our W113.
Kind regards
Francisco
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Re: front caster and rear camber question
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2019, 10:55:26 »
Just a little hint for everyone:
Hold down the "ALT" key and type 248 to get a degree symbol!

So rear camber is 1°45'

You're welcome!

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