Author Topic: braking nose dive  (Read 3324 times)

jeffc280sl

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braking nose dive
« on: July 12, 2004, 12:59:47 »
Has anyone tried using an adjustable brake portioning valve to improve this situation?  I suppose it would be used to reduce pressure to the front brakes so that more rear braking is involved in stopping the car.

Jeff C.
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Re: braking nose dive
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2004, 14:58:57 »
Somehow this seems like it would decrease overall stopping power, no? I thought that most of the braking always comes from the front wheels and that it's the geometry of our cars that makes for the nose-dive. I have gotten used to it over the years actually. One thing that should take care of this nosedive is John Olson's progressive-rate springs (at least they did on Tom Sargeant's 'Tunis Beige' 280 SL). I thought you have those springs Jeff, am I mistaken or did they not affect the diving on your car?

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jeffc280sl

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Re: braking nose dive
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2004, 15:26:44 »
Hi Cees,

I do have the new springs and the nose dive is better.  I had sort of a panic stop at 70 mph the other day and was wondering if the rear brakes could do more of the work.

Jeff C.
1970 280SL 4-speed

Ben

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Re: braking nose dive
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2004, 06:35:36 »
You may end up locking up a rear wheel if the bias isn't correct however a brake bias valve, as fitted to most rally cars could be employed !

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Ben in Ireland.
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George Davis

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Re: braking nose dive
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2004, 08:21:07 »
Jeff,

I strongly recommend against changing the brake bias.  As Ben said, if the bias is too much to rear, the rears may lock up first.  In a hard or panic braking situation, the car will swap ends.  Exciting, sure, but usually undesirable.

George Davis
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