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JPMOSE

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Oil/Coolant Heat Exchanger/230SL Upgrade
« on: March 20, 2006, 14:31:14 »
I am going to start on my next project: the cooling system.  Besides all hoses and clamps, I am going to have the radiator rebuilt (although it doesn't seem to need it -- just looks bad; reverse flush the heater core and install new seal; install new thermostat; and possible water pump replacement.

The 250SL (and I believe late 230SLs) have an Oil/Coolant Heat Exchanger (Exchanger) underneath the injector pump.  Could I get a data dump on the following questions:

1)  How exactly does this work (other than the obvious)?

2)  Is there any service required on the Exchanger other than the normal coolant flush performed on the entire system?

3)  What is the life expectancy on the Exchanger and has ANYONE ever had one rebuilt  (they are around $1,000 new)?

4)  Is the oil cooler (air-cooled) on 280SL superior to the subject exchanger?


Thanks for your time!

Best Regards,

J. P. Mose
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« Last Edit: April 01, 2006, 08:16:12 by JPMOSE »
Best Regards,

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Re: Oil/Coolant Heat Exchanger/230SL Upgrade
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2006, 21:02:58 »
quote:
Originally posted by JPMOSE

The 250SL (and I believe late 230SLs) have an Oil/Coolant Heat Exchanger (Exchanger) underneath the injector pump.
Huh?   :?:

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Re: Oil/Coolant Heat Exchanger/230SL Upgrade
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2006, 22:17:35 »
I have the same oil cooler as described, and had a leak repaired by a local radiator shop.  It should be good for another 40 years.

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Re: Oil/Coolant Heat Exchanger/230SL Upgrade
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2006, 07:10:59 »
JP and Tom,

So, I'm supposed to have some device below the F.I. Pump that has engine oil running through it in one part and engine coolant running through it in another part and the heat is transferred between them?  Do you have a picture??

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Re: Oil/Coolant Heat Exchanger/230SL Upgrade
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2006, 13:14:44 »
Yes I think these are very good questions. I have attached a picture of it for your sake Rodd ;-)


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Re: Oil/Coolant Heat Exchanger/230SL Upgrade
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2006, 16:00:24 »
The oil cooler was an option on 230SL. All 250SL's have oil coolers under the injection pump. These are really heat exchangers as they heat the oil up faster in a cold engine yet cool the oil in a hot engine.

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Re: Oil/Coolant Heat Exchanger/230SL Upgrade
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2006, 19:17:36 »
quote:
Originally posted by Benz Dr.
The oil cooler was an option on 230SL.

Dan,
if a 230SL didn't come with this option do you recommend to retrofit it with this oil cooler?  Or are there better options now available for the 230SL?

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Re: Oil/Coolant Heat Exchanger/230SL Upgrade
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2006, 23:03:39 »
That IS the only option you can easily use on a 230SL. You need the oil filter housing, oil lines, oil cooler, coolant line that runs around the front of the oil pan and a small Y shaped pipe near the intake manifold so you can plumb the cooling lines all together. There is also a pipe fitting that scres into te side of the engine block just behind the injection pump. Removing the old plug from the block could prove challenging.
All these parts can be found used. Make sure the cooler holds at least 100 PSI pressure on the oil side. The pressure relief valve will open before that but I think you would be wise to have a margine of safety. I've never seen one leak though.

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Re: Oil/Coolant Heat Exchanger/230SL Upgrade
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2006, 09:22:56 »
Bits needed to make up exchanger kit:

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+ engine block adaptor and hoses, clips etc.

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Re: Oil/Coolant Heat Exchanger/230SL Upgrade
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2006, 14:03:18 »
Hello Naj,

Thanks, a great photo. You cannot get such good information anywhere else but right here on this site!

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Re: Oil/Coolant Heat Exchanger/230SL Upgrade
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2006, 18:29:03 »
Hello Naj and Dan,
thanks for the picture and the instructions how to build one. But I'll pass on that thrill - that's way too much for my skills!

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Re: Oil/Coolant Heat Exchanger/230SL Upgrade
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2006, 20:14:17 »
JPMOSE

Just  for information sake, the same oil/coolant heat exchanger can be found on other MB automobiles of the era.  I took one off of a 67? 250 SE sedan.  You may be able to find one on other models from the late 60's as well.  Just look around.

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Re: Oil/Coolant Heat Exchanger/230SL Upgrade
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2006, 17:56:27 »
Hello,
Yes the same oil cooler was standard equipment on the 250S and 250SE sedans (W108) 1965 to 1967.

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