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NewToW113
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USA, MA, Newton
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Help identifying these components???
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January 30, 2022, 22:45:57 »
Hi, I have looked through our site, google, etc, and i'm exhausted. What are these under-hood elec. components? the one on the left seems to be wired to the horns? FYI this is a 67 230sl from France.
Thanks in advance...
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1967 230SL Euro 4spd WIP
1976 Porsche 911S Euro 3.0
DavidAPease
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USA, CA, Chico
Posts: 381
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Re: Help identifying these components???
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January 31, 2022, 00:36:15 »
Hi,
If you read this set of posts (started by me):
https://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?topic=32842.msg239152#msg239152
you'll see my piece of strange electrical equipment in my French 1966 230SL. The consensus is that the French rules of the time (and maybe other European countries as well) required electrical cut-offs in case of an accident. The dial/knob on the top of mine is a reset, and yours is probably the same. (My mechanic bypassed this when the engine was rebuilt, so it's in the engine compartment just for originality, but not connected.)
-David
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-David Pease
'66 230SL (Originally sold in Paris)
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Germany, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Tecklenburg
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January 31, 2022, 01:08:31 »
Clearly looks to me like an aftermarket piece. No factory-originally delivered component.
The plugs are different, MB did not use these.
Clearly an add-on.
Achim
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NewToW113
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January 31, 2022, 02:31:00 »
Ok, they are definitely old - close to period, I guess I'd like to get them out of my harness, I wonder what they do?
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1967 230SL Euro 4spd WIP
1976 Porsche 911S Euro 3.0
Jonny B
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Re: Help identifying these components???
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January 31, 2022, 16:44:29 »
Didn't some of the cars have an airhorn kind of set up? Country horn?
I have seen it on a French 113 some time ago at the LaJolla concours.
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Jonny B
1967 250 SL Auto, DB 568
1970 280 SL Auto, DB 904
1966 Morris Mini Minor
WRe
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Germany, Hessen, Seeheim-Jugenheim
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Re: Help identifying these components???
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January 31, 2022, 17:47:55 »
Hi,
the red relay 514 is an addition for connecting additional components such as horns or lamps.
Are there any clues on the second box.
...WRe
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NewToW113
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February 01, 2022, 00:40:02 »
Interesting info WRe....I definitely don't see any airhorns lurking under the hood
. The other unit has lost its labels some time ago, its only mark is a stamped "21A" on the top, and has a direct connection to the battery, then goes down to the original horns, and another wire jumps to the 514 relay. I haven't chased the wires from the 514, but I will this week.
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1976 Porsche 911S Euro 3.0
WRe
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Germany, Hessen, Seeheim-Jugenheim
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February 01, 2022, 08:20:52 »
Hi,
the second box is a relay too, a heavy duty relay, probably Marchal 413.
...WRe
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