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roadrunner113

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Which radio in a 1970 Pagoda ?
« on: August 03, 2020, 07:53:28 »
Hi,
I am from Germany and I have a 1970 Pagoda US-Version.
Unfortunately the car has only a radio and I want to change it into a one with a cassette recorder, to listen to my old tapes from that time. As a big fan of originality I would like to get a radio of the year 1970.
Does anybody know, which radio with cassette player was offered as an option by MB at that time?
Maybe someone has a old sales brochure with a price list of 1970.

Would be very glad to receive an answer.
« Last Edit: August 03, 2020, 08:37:15 by roadrunner113 »

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Re: Which radio in a 1970 Pagoda ?
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2020, 10:50:22 »
Have a look here:

http://oudemercedesbrochures.nl/W113.html for borchures

and here

https://www.sl113.org/wiki/Electrical/Radio for radio information. You'll need to be a Full Member though.

From 1970 the Becker Mexico Cassette was offered, a two unit system.

Peter

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Re: Which radio in a 1970 Pagoda ?
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2020, 11:43:53 »
Dear Roadrunner and Peter

I have one Becker Mexico only cassette player which came out from a 1969 MB w109-6.3 imported to Venezuela by the Panama ambassador, car which is on my hands since 2015.  I am not going to use it, so anyone who is willing to have one in their loved MB can contact me per PM.

The unit was in working condition when pulled out, I have opened the unit and observed that cassette heads are clean, rubber belts are not broken so unit seems to be in good working order.  Has a label sticker over the chassis that indicates that was serviced on year 1998.

The fascia is in pristine condition, no cracks on the plastic and the chrome is perfect with no pitting.

See fotos on this link:

https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0QJRveFpJuU0zt

Or below.

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Re: Which radio in a 1970 Pagoda ?
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2020, 23:36:09 »
I currently have fitted a radio cassette player in my car that is from a 71 MB i believe with the big opening that i am currently trying to replace with an alternative radio only that Aaron is overhauling for me. Whilst the radio works fine, the cassettes i have tried will not. I fitted the smaller correct nobs.


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Re: Which radio in a 1970 Pagoda ?
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2020, 15:59:26 »
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Maybe someone has a old sales brochure with a price list of 1970.
Would be very glad to receive an answer.

Hallo Roadrunner
(Straßenrenner),

For the 280 SL only the Becker Mexico Olympia was available,
a unit that was available from 1969 onwards. It's a mono unit, only the tape player (Cassettenteil) was Stereo.
The original sales price was DM 1200,--
including speakers and (standard) antenna. ???

In 1972 it was converted to a full stereo unit 'Becker Mexico Olympia Stereo'...; very briefly thereafter named in Becker Mexico Cassette because the name "Olympia" was name-protected by the former typewriter company "Olympia".

Well,
for our cars only the first version was available but there are later updates around until the late 1979/1980 Becker Mexico (Voll-)Stereo Cassette Autoreverse,
the most advanced and best unit of these.
After that the more full electronic Becker radios came up basically without turn knobs, without separate face plate etc. for the W123, W126, etc.

If you are interested, I have got a Becker Mexico Cassette (Voll-Stereo) from 1972 in my W114 that I am willing to part with. I live nearFrankfurt/Hesse (Hessen)...; so, not to far from you. You can send me a PN if you like.

But there are Becker Mexicos around to get hands on. Don't worry
& viel Glück


Achim
(who likes push-button Beckers more)
Achim
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Re: Which radio in a 1970 Pagoda ?
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2020, 08:47:57 »
Hi everybody,

first of all: thank you for your answers.

As far as I could find out for now, either the Becker Mexico Olympia or the Becker Mexico Cassette will be the right one.
The year of production is shown on a sticker on the radio.
For 1970 it must be a "G".

Best regards


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Re: Which radio in a 1970 Pagoda ?
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2020, 16:21:30 »
sent you a PN  :)

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Re: Which radio in a 1970 Pagoda ?
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2020, 17:43:59 »
Roadrunner,

I considered this about 8 years ago and decided that an old cassette player would be too frustrating eating tapes.

My 70 came with a mono Becker Europa . I quickly found a Becker Europa II stereo  with a separate 7w per channel amplifier which i mounted behind the glovebox. I then bought 4" becker speakers that fit in the foot panels.  There are holes designed for those 4" speakers already prepared.  The Europa II had a DB7 port on the back that was used for an external tape unit, either 8 track or cassette.  That DB7 port can also be fitted with a 3.5 mm female plug (copleye kiy was available on ebay)that fits the output from all cellphones or ipods.  We installed the 3.5 plug end under the dash light and used a male/male regular audio cord to plug into the phone.  Through your phone, you can play any audio source you want, without the frustration of the old cassette tape player, is fully authentic, and extremely reliable.
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Re: Which radio in a 1970 Pagoda ?
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2020, 18:20:12 »
It seems the original PO is satisfied, so I hope no one minds a small hijack of the thread, but still concerning '70 radios.
Achim,
Can you tell me factually if option 519 for the Grand Prix radio was mono or stereo when installed by the factory?
(And if it matters, I'm speaking about the August of '69 production including VIN 11304412012287.)
My understanding is Mono, but maybe you have documents to prove (or dis-prove) what I think.
Thanks !!
Mark (who seeks the truth ;D)
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