Correct Tire Jack and Wheel Chock

[Andres G]

Hello Folks,  I hope everyone is doing great and staying healthy. 

Some background to my question:  A few years ago, at the time of moving into my current home, I had my pagoda at the body shop for a color-sand and buff, and had kept everything from the trunk at home.  Well, as you probably already guessed, all of it magically disappeared and I've since been trying to purchase back all of the missing parts.

Wheel and tire were easy, as was the cover for it.  My tool kit re-surfaced so I was saved with that, but I am now trying to find the correct Tire Jack and wheel chock.

Ask: Can anyone identify what is the correct model Bilstein tire jack?  I was under the impression it should be AB1922 - Can anyone confirm?  The car is an Euro-250 SL (Italian Market).

Thanks in advance,
Andres G

[wjsvb]

I recently dug the jack and wheel chock out of my early US 250SL.  The jack is the earlier type with a separate ratchet handle.  If needed, I can get a pic  next time I visit the car.

[Andres G]

I recently dug the jack and wheel chock out of my early US 250SL.  The jack is the earlier type with a separate ratchet handle.  If needed, I can get a pic  next time I visit the car.

Hi Jon, thanks for your offer.  My 250SL is a later model, and came with the single piece one. 

I did find an OEM NOS wheel chock,  and almost passed out when I saw it was $425 on e-Bay.  Called the dealer and found it for $1550 + Tax!!!   I will be drinking some Malbec to aid with the healing process.  Snif...

[mrfatboy]

I have never seen a late 250 SL with the one piece jack. Always been the two piece as my early 280sl.  Is this a Euro-itailian configuration? I thought the one piece jack was a later 280sl change.

I'm curious to know what is correct.

[kampala]

My late 250 also came with the early screw type jack with separate ratchet type handle. Not the one piece.

[mbzse]

I have never seen a late 250 SL with the one piece jack. Always been the two piece as my early 280sl.../...the one piece jack was a later 280sl change.../...

This is correct, yes

[Andres G]

I recently dug the jack and wheel chock out of my early US 250SL.  The jack is the earlier type with a separate ratchet handle.  If needed, I can get a pic  next time I visit the car.

Hi Jon, I guess from the answer above that I could use a picture of it if you can share.  I assume what was in my car was not the original...

[mrfatboy]

Here is a picture of a jack from an early 250sl (same as my early 280sl).  Notice how the jack snaps into the metal spring clamps. 

The later crank style jack will not correctly fit in earlier spring clamps.

[John Betsch - "SADIE"]

Sorry to jump on this thread with a question. 

My 230sl jack came to me as shown with the ratchet in its own floor holder.  Most pix show the ratchet  inside the jack screw as the picture in the thread before mine.  If that is correct, what is the unused floor clip for? Or, were there multiple options for securing?

JB

[Jonny B]

The parts books for the early 230 SL show the jack handle as fitting inside the jack, as mrfatboy's photo shows. Perhaps the other clip could be used for the wheel centering pin?

[badali]

The wheel centering pin was in the extra clip in mine...

[SEB]

Gentlemen's
And can I ask which model is this tire jack? I have an early 250SL and was thinking all the time I have the correct one.
Thank you for your  help!

[mbzse]

.../... can I ask which model is this tire jack? I have an early 250SL .../...

Correct for the 250 SL and early 280 SL is the external spiral type jack, with a separate handle (ratchet).

[SEB]

Many thanks Hans! Do you have maybe an idea from what car is my tire jack?

[mbzse]

Many thanks Hans! Do you have maybe an idea from what car is my tire jack?

Late 280 SL Pagoda, as well as all other models like W108, W111 cp/cab and W114/115 Compact

[SEB]

Thank you Hans!
Do you know if this old style tire jack was in all old Mercedes used before W108/ W114/115 or only in a Pagoda?

[mbzse]

The open spiral type jack was used by W121 Pontons and W110/111 Finbacks as well as other Mercedes types

[SEB]

Many thanks Hans!
Last question- which one is more convenient? I know only the new one how it works. Is it equal in using or is it one step backwards?

[Merc_Girl]

Does anyone happen to know if the early 230SL, with vertically mounted spare wheel, had a wheel chock?

If so, where about where this was stored? I see that the pagodas that have the ‘horizontal’ spare, have these either mounted on the ‘stand’, although have seen an image of one screwed down in the wheel well, although not sure hoe accurate that is!

Many thanks

[Pawel66]

For 113042 I have from parts list:

Chock, PN A 110 583 01 75, Plant information: As of ident. no.: 042 007205 EXCEPT FOR: 007216, 007232 ALSO INSTALLED ON 006069

I think this was the time of the spare wheel location re-arrangement, floor and fuel pump cover took place (but not the tank change! - this took place with 250SL). Together with the spare wheel re-arrangement chock appeared.

That is what parts lists plus some other info are saying.

[Merc_Girl]

I think this was the time of the spare wheel location re-arrangement, floor and fuel pump cover took place (but not the tank change! - this took place with 250SL). Together with the spare wheel re-arrangement chock appeared.

That is what parts lists plus some other info are saying.

Ah ha
So, as I have the spare vertically mounted, I surmise from your research that my 230SL did not have a chock. I’ve looked at the owners handbook and given there is no mention of it there which I presume those who have chocks would have?

Thanks for confirming Pawell66 😁

[Pawel66]

Just another theory as in the case of the third nipple...

[MikeSimon]

My parts list shows 110 583 0175, wheel chock for ALL models. The jack is listed different for 230SL, old version.

[Merc_Girl]

Just another theory as in the case of the third nipple...

Third nipple???

[Pawel66]

Well, you can never be sure...

There is a clear note "as of..." .

I changed the sentence a bit: it does fit all models, if that is the criteria for classification in that part list, but the EPC is quite accurate as for what went where and when, so it fits all 230SL, it just was fitted as of certain chassis.

[Pawel66]

Third nipple???

I am sorry - you would have to follow the recent thread on brake fluid reservoir - this is where the third nipple grew in November 69.

[Merc_Girl]

Thanks Mike
So now I’m confused.

As a matter of curiosity, does your handbook mention the wheel chock?

From other comments in the forum, it looks as though cars with the more horizontally mounted spare wheel have a particular place where the chock is mounted.

Knowing how fastidious the Germans are ensuring everything has its place, I’m not quite sure which of the various ‘clips’ would hold such an item, unless like in one image Attached, a bolt holds the chock in place inside the wheel itself. However this didn’t look to be of the exacting standards of MB and I would have thought make it difficult for the wheel  to be retrieved from the boot?

Katie 

[Pawel66]

It is more like on the picture. It is secured there with a wing nut.

[DaveB]

Many thanks Hans!
Last question- which one is more convenient? I know only the new one how it works. Is it equal in using or is it one step backwards?

It works well but the handle rotates in a horizontal plane so there’s a risk of hitting the panels if you’re not careful.

[MikeSimon]

Thanks Mike
So now I’m confused.

As a matter of curiosity, does your handbook mention the wheel chock?


Katie

Katie: I have a 280SL. But my parts list/manual shows the chock for all years. It usually differentiates between parts for the various models. The chock in the 280SL is mounted on a tab that is welded to the spare tire holder. As the holder is only for the spare wheel mounted flat, that could be another indicator that the upright spare wheel cars did not have a wheel chock.

[Mark250SL]

Hi All- In the Chassis and Body Spare Parts List for the early 250 SLs = Catalog 10 128 from January 1967, they list the newer one-piece Bilstein under "Tools and Accessories" on page 178.  The corresponding part number is 000 583 67 15.  This is not the older, two-piece jack.  Could it be that both types were issued with the cars- depending on what was in stock during the transition from old to new?  I am just wondering which one to look for.  My early US-version 250SL was produced in April, 1967.

[Pawel66]

IMHO it is possible. I once spoke in Essen to former employee of Daimler, charming gentleman who said things like that could have happened.

[ejboyd5]

Could it be that both types were issued with the cars- depending on what was in stock during the transition from old to new?

Absolutely. Although it was M-B practice to exhaust the supply of old items before supplying the new, except in the cases of safety or performance parts, mixing did occur. Generally, ancillary items such as tools, jacks, chocks, etc., were placed in large bins to be picked out by the workers and it was common for some older parts to remain in the mix until finally being discovered at the bottom of the bin.