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MikeSimon

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Bucket List Item
« on: May 05, 2019, 15:40:57 »
While looking at a car for a client - in this case a Maranello product - we found this, which I will keep for myself. I have been looking for one for a while and I was always afraid anything I would get would be another "project" and would distract me from getting my SL back in shape.
Fortunately, this one does not need anything...
1970/71 280SL Automatic
Sandy Beige
Parchment Leather
Power Steering
Automatic
Hardtop
Heated Tinted Rear Window
German specs
3rd owner

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Re: Bucket List Item
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2019, 16:10:02 »
Nice find Mike ... enjoy!

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Re: Bucket List Item
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2019, 19:07:29 »
Yum - assume you've already signed up to 914World
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Re: Bucket List Item
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2019, 20:17:18 »
Yum - assume you've already signed up to 914World

 ;D ;D No, James, have not. Unlike with my SL, I will probably not need much expert help with the 914. I owned one of these before and used to worked on it quite extensively. I raced it, so it was necessary to know the car.
Also, I have really reduced my "forum activities". I was part of quite a few, but the bullies on the keyboards made me quit most of them. 8)
1970/71 280SL Automatic
Sandy Beige
Parchment Leather
Power Steering
Automatic
Hardtop
Heated Tinted Rear Window
German specs
3rd owner

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Re: Bucket List Item
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2019, 21:21:34 »
Very Nice!
1969 Euro 280sl 5 spd
Restored by SLTech
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Re: Bucket List Item
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2019, 20:24:44 »
Nice 914-6 model find.
Has it been raced before?  Looks like it got a complete restoration.

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Re: Bucket List Item
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2019, 21:00:32 »
I recall those being rare cars but I'm unsure of the number built. Any ideas on that?
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Re: Bucket List Item
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2019, 22:10:16 »
It is a convoluted subject. There are different stories, all claiming to be "official".

One story:
Original factory cars (called first 914-6 RS by Porsche, later dubbed 914-6 GT) were only 33. These were exclusively used for racing by the factory. Then, in 1971 and 1972, 23 more cars were built with the official M471 package, mostly for customers, again intended for racing but many made it to street legal cars.
Another story:
46 "GT" cars were built by the factory, which included 11 M471 cars.

Almost 500 M471 packages were delivered to dealers and private customers to convert stock 914-6s to GT look-alikes. This was a "body and wheel package" which included steel flares, steel flared belly pan, fiberglass sills, rear wheel spacers and 6" forged Fuchs alloys.

The original factory cars had modified Carrera 6 (906) engines, while most "package" vehicles had the "T" option, which was the stock 2.0L , 110hp flat six from the old model 911T.
 Many dealer conversions featured the 6" front and 7" rear wheels from the 1973 Carrera 2.7 RS and omitted the wheel spacers

This particular one is a dealer M471 with a 2.2L Weber-carb engine, 908 front brakes and front oil cooler. It has not been raced and has an early 90s restoration

In recent years, many, many 914s show up with GT looks. As there is no documentation by Porsche where the 480+ M471 packages were used, it is next to impossible to determine, if they are clones or "originals". In addition, clever "businessmen" convert 4 -cylinder cars to 914-6s and trying to pass these off as the more expensive version.
As only the Porsche-built 914-6 VINs will start with 914... and 914-4 do not, other clever guys sell 914 VIN tags with titles.

If you are trying to get into these cars without doing your homework, you will most likely fall victim to a scam artist.
1970/71 280SL Automatic
Sandy Beige
Parchment Leather
Power Steering
Automatic
Hardtop
Heated Tinted Rear Window
German specs
3rd owner

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Re: Bucket List Item
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2019, 22:33:41 »
This a case where two relatively similar cars will have a "numbers matters" importance. Not so much in 113's.
1966 230SL 5 speed, LSD, header pipes, 300SE distributor, ported, polished and balanced, AKA  ''The Red Rocket ''
Dan Caron's SL Barn

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Re: Bucket List Item
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2019, 23:02:20 »
Also, I have really reduced my "forum activities". I was part of quite a few, but the bullies on the keyboards made me quit most of them.
Unfortunately, this problem plagues many sites and the bullies are often those who know the least.

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Re: Bucket List Item
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2019, 13:50:50 »
But fortunately there are no bullies on this site, contrary to the German forum "Pagodetreff". There are quite some bullies there!
I decided not to go there anymore for that reason.
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Re: Bucket List Item
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2019, 14:45:38 »
Well, I'm glad you did.  :)
1966 230SL 5 speed, LSD, header pipes, 300SE distributor, ported, polished and balanced, AKA  ''The Red Rocket ''
Dan Caron's SL Barn

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Re: Bucket List Item
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2019, 16:07:59 »
I'm sure you know them, but http://autoatlanta.com/ is a great place for parts and expertise on these...

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Re: Bucket List Item
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2019, 20:23:49 »
Looks really nice ‘Michael.
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Re: Bucket List Item
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2019, 20:34:13 »
I'm sure you know them, but http://autoatlanta.com/ is a great place for parts and expertise on these...

Yes, Chris, I know these guys. I have checked them out periodically when I was looking for the right car.

And yes, John! It is really nice! Good thing, I will not need a rotisserie resto.. ;D ;D
1970/71 280SL Automatic
Sandy Beige
Parchment Leather
Power Steering
Automatic
Hardtop
Heated Tinted Rear Window
German specs
3rd owner

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Re: Bucket List Item
« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2019, 20:47:21 »
Mike
Not sure I trust you on that answer.  You better let me stop by to take it for a spin to check it!

Ha ha
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