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1966 230sl manual Front brake calliper
« on: April 25, 2019, 12:23:20 »
Hi all looking for some help on 1966 230sl Pagoda with manual G box. I need a new front right brake calliper. On my vehicle it has single piston front callipers not 2 piston. I can find no reference on the site to these. I have searched the internet also. Has anyone a part number or link to somewhere that lists them?  Many thanks in advance.

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Re: 1966 230sl manual Front brake calliper
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2019, 14:07:08 »
Hi,
I assume you have the 3-piston Girling brake callipers which are hard to get: https://www.sl113.org/wiki/Brake/Caliper
But if they are not too bad you can repair them. Here you find some information:
https://www.pagodentreff.de/diskussionsforum/threads/girling-3-kolben-bremse-neue-dichtungen-kolben-recht-günstig.7535/#post-113864.
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Re: 1966 230sl manual Front brake calliper
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2019, 14:48:23 »
Thanks for the link  much appreciated . But they are not 2 piston or 3 piston, but just a single piston . Its a UK car ,right hand drive with and manual gearbox if that helps. Disks on the front drum on the rear .
  Its not actually my car, but my good friend Les. He's mid 70,s now and doesnt use a computer.I post and join on his behalf. He's 150 miles from me so I can't post a pic. He had the near side fail some years back .I managed to find a new replacement (he did'nt then & does'nt want to refurbish it ) . I managed to get a part number before and it actually was the same calliper as used on a T3 VW Transporter. At the time a Merc part was ish £200  the same caliper but listed for VW was around £40! As with all things I do online for him I save the links to purchases,reference pages etc  etc . But frustratingly when I have tried to open the order page I saved the Company is no longer trading and I get the 404 error page. I can't fremember the spec of the VW  Year,engine etc etc & He cant find the receipt either ......
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Re: 1966 230sl manual Front brake calliper
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2019, 18:24:09 »
Hi,
Yes, there were Girling 1-piston fist callipers in VW T2/T3 transporter which are still available. Maybe somebody rebuild the brake system of your friends car or the Girlings have the same size.
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Re: 1966 230sl manual Front brake calliper
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2019, 19:52:05 »
You have ATE small brake calipers. These were designed to fit cars with 13" rims ( 110 and 220SEb coupes ) and were simply fitted on 113's without any modifications. When all of the MB models went to 14" rims in 1967 then they changed over to the larger brake calipers that can be found on 108's and other cars from that era. You should be able to get them rebuilt and it would be wise to do them as a pair to prevent any problems with uneven braking or pulling to one side.

Hope this helps.
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Re: 1966 230sl manual Front brake calliper
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2019, 22:09:41 »
I know you said you don't want to repair them but if you do biggred in the UK ate great to deal with for parts or even full calipers.

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Re: 1966 230sl manual Front brake calliper
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2019, 06:15:08 »
Hi,
VW changed in1986 from fixed to floating callipers (1-piston fist) for T3 transporter as well from ATE as from Girling: https://tk-carparts.de/vw-bus-t3-bremse-festsattel-bremssattel.
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Re: 1966 230sl manual Front brake calliper
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2019, 15:09:53 »
Hi all and thanks for the help.
For reasons I don't quite understand  when I asked him how many pistons in the calliper he replied only one.After reading up and reading your posts here I rang him again. Upon pressing him it was in fact one per side ,two in total. Very frustrating. If it helps anyone else   left calliper  :  DC80356 Remy BRAKE CALIPER (FR/LH/REMAN)  & DC80357  Remy  for front right  . Available in the UK (Non trade price) around £65 complete  (Ebay inc Del) saves alot of work refurbing  .
 

  Many thanks again for the help from everyone.

Mark (On behalf of Les)

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Re: 1966 230sl manual Front brake calliper
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2019, 07:35:31 »
Hi,
if you compare the Delco Remy part number with other manufacturers you need the "standard calliper" for - more or less - all Pagodas, except very early ones with Girlings:
https://www.daparto.de/Bremssattel/Mercedes-Benz-SL-Pagode-W113/2-1211-1527?kbaTypeId=886 .
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