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Raffles84

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Tyre size for 1964 Uk 230SL
« on: August 29, 2018, 08:10:40 »
Hi can anyone tell me what is the original tyre size and make for my 230sl 1964?? And also in uk where I can buy these tyres from?? Just doing a complete nut and bolt restoration so would like everything to be original spec. Many thanks

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Re: Tyre size for 1964 Uk 230SL
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2018, 10:32:44 »


185/80 R14 90H (formerly 185 HR14)
This is the original tire configuration for all 113's, nothing else.

People here use whatever on their cars - depending on personal taste and what can be licensed in your specific country (MOT).

Many people like the 195/75 R14, especially in the States since those tyres are cheap.

Use the search function here ....; tons of info on the used tyres.


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Re: Tyre size for 1964 Uk 230SL
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2018, 11:58:02 »
Quote from: Raffles84
Hi can anyone tell me what is the original tyre size and make for my 230sl 1964.../...
Like Achim writes, the search function on this webpage is your friend.
See for instance:https://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?topic=22929.msg163922#msg163922
« Last Edit: August 29, 2018, 17:54:39 by mbzse »
/Hans S

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Re: Tyre size for 1964 Uk 230SL
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2018, 17:37:40 »
And here you will find some w113 model data: https://www.sl113.org/wiki/Main/W113ModelData
plus info about tyres here: https://www.sl113.org/wiki/WheelsTires/TireSize
Johan
04/1964 230SL, European, manual 4-sp, power steering, 050/050 white, black leather, Blaupunkt (SOLD)

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Re: Tyre size for 1964 Uk 230SL
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2018, 18:43:13 »
My car's data card has the brand of the OE tire in field "19". It was "Phönix". Phönix became part of Continental tire in 2007.
Back in the 60s and 70s, Daimler Benz was an outspoken supporter of the local German supplier industry. That's why the tiny company "Beru" had most of the OE spark plug applications.
1970/71 280SL Automatic
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Power Steering
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Heated Tinted Rear Window
German specs
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Re: Tyre size for 1964 Uk 230SL
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2018, 19:19:37 »
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.../... the brand of the OE tire in field "19". It was "Phönix".../...
Nice brand indeed
Attached some contemporary Firestone Phönix P110 advertising (1963).
I dig the Fox  8)

(note AMS = German Auto magazine "Auto Motor und Sport")
« Last Edit: August 29, 2018, 19:23:58 by mbzse »
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Re: Tyre size for 1964 Uk 230SL
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2018, 21:25:04 »
I coincidentally took a few pictures today of the spare tire in my early '68 280 SL.
After 50 years the Tire is still in pretty  decent condition. Had the original Phoenix  tube replaced two years ago.

A few pictures of the Phoenix P110  tire.

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1968 280 SL 387 Blue met., parchment leather
1971 280 SL 462 Beige met, Brown leather
1968 280 SL 180 Silver, Red leather
1964 300 SE Lang 040 Black w/Red leather
1985 500 SL 735 Astral Silver w/Black leather
1987 560 SEC 199 Black met., Black leather

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Re: Tyre size for 1964 Uk 230SL
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2018, 00:39:42 »
185 14s are not the most common tyre size

Most “correct” in the uk is considered to be the Michelin MXVs, with a rubbing strip on the sidewall. Take a deep breath when pricing them up
Stick put some Blockley tyres on mine last he had it and I am pretty happy with them and they were less than half the cost
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Re: Tyre size for 1964 Uk 230SL
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2018, 07:11:41 »

A few pictures of the Phoenix P110  tire.


https://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?topic=25503.msg182644#msg182644

The referenced post shows my original unused Firestone Phoenix spare mounted on the factory wheel.
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Re: Tyre size for 1964 Uk 230SL
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2018, 08:05:47 »
Hi Ralph,

I missed your pictures when browsing the referenced post.
That tire shown still looks amazing. I see the red markings still on the surface, were they are only remaing in the thread groove on my sparetire, which obviously has been briefly used on the road. Still fun to have it intact, the nice rounded p-edge is not like anything currently available.

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1968 280 SL 387 Blue met., parchment leather
1971 280 SL 462 Beige met, Brown leather
1968 280 SL 180 Silver, Red leather
1964 300 SE Lang 040 Black w/Red leather
1985 500 SL 735 Astral Silver w/Black leather
1987 560 SEC 199 Black met., Black leather

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Re: Tyre size for 1964 Uk 230SL
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2018, 13:08:11 »
Many people like the 195/75 R14, especially in the States since those tyres are cheap.

When I went for a new set of tires last year I had two objectives:  Duplicate as close as possible the narrow white wall look provided by the Firestone Phoenix tires delivered on the car and, duplicate as close as possible the diameter/circumference of the original tires.  I considered the curb rub strip as on the Cokers nice but not necessary.  I went for the Maxxis 195/75 R14 as they were closest to meeting my objectives.  The post below includes measurements taken at the time comparing the new tires to the original Firestone Phoenix. 

https://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=15589;area=showposts;start=350

As Achim indicates they are pretty cheap in the USA.
Ralph

1969 280SL, 4 Speed Manual, Dark Olive (291H), Parchment Leather (256), Dark Green Soft Top (747)
1972 Mercedes-Benz 280SEL 4.5
1988 Mercedes-Benz 560SL
2007 BMW 328xi (E90)
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2004 Toyota HiLux D4D Pickup
2008 BMW 330xd Futura Coupe' (E92)

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Re: Tyre size for 1964 Uk 230SL
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2018, 18:25:26 »
Coming back to the original question, I would recommend the Vredesteins in original size from, for instance Camskill.co.uk for about £120 each. It's a very good tyre, specially made for classic cars. Then, if you would like white walls, why not add fake ones like these  https://www.hansen-styling-parts.de/epages/63246837.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/63246837/Products/887M

The Vredesteins have a rubber lip on one side and w/o on the other side, so you can decide before mounting on the rim.

The attached pic shows the Vredesteins with fake WW from Hansen.
Johan
04/1964 230SL, European, manual 4-sp, power steering, 050/050 white, black leather, Blaupunkt (SOLD)