Pagoda SL Group
W113 Pagoda SL Group => About this site => Topic started by: rwmastel on February 19, 2003, 22:14:36
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Hello!
I'm the moderator of the "General Discussion" forum. We had planned on putting all the discussion threads into this "General Discussion" forum. This is to minimize the locations you need to search through to find new postings. There are other forums for special subjects, like Group Events, Items For Sale, etc, but this one is meant for all the common topics we dealt with on the Yahoo! site. Every time a discussion thread gets a new reply, it's pushed to the top of the page and the date of that message is listed to the right. This way, you can quickly see what's been written to most recently. With use you will achieve an understanding of it's function and you'll get more comfortable with it. It works quite well. I love being able to see a topic and to know that all replies to that topic are "on topic".
Of course, as with all things, this could change if there is enough demand (and logical reasoning!) over time. There will be no sudden changes in how we organize the forums or the web site in general, but we will listen to all suggestions and adapt when it makes good sense.
Thanks
Rodd
1966 230SL Euro
1994 E420
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Why are the topics still in "pink" if I have already read them ?
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Is this after you logout of the Forum and then log back in later, or just real-time as you read them?
Rodd
1966 230SL Euro
1994 E420
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I just checked it. As you read messages and browse through the forums, the folders do not turn yellow. Once I logout and then login, I see all folders are yellow which indicates I have read the messages there.
Rodd
1966 230SL Euro
1994 E420
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I just made switched two discussion threads, "Member Feedback" and "New Members", into "sticky" mode. This means they are always at the top of the list of discussion threads. Let me know if you think this is appropriate, I can easily put them back the way they were.
Rodd
1966 230SL Euro
1994 E420
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Hi,
Just a suggestion for organisation as I suspect stuff might get buried or lost can I suggest that the site is laid out in a similiar way to a site called "evocorner" on delphiforums.com. This site is for Lancia Delta Integrale owners (like me) and seems to work pretty well.
Worth a look
Cheers
Malc
Scotland
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Malc,
That's an interesting layout to have the topics listed in a panel on the left and the messages in the selected topic listed in a panel on the right. It was not intuitive to get to the forum. If you were not listed under "Delphi's top forums", I'm not sure how I would have found it. There's no "List of forums" link or anything. Also, after clicking on the "Evocorner Forum" link, I didn't see a forum! I had to click "start reading" instead of just having the forum discussions presented right away. That was not too intuitive for a first time user.
http://www.delphiforums.com/
I don't know if our software will present the forum list in a panel view like delphi does. Typically the software determines the structural layout. Our webmaster would have to comment on the options in the software for changing the layout.
Thanks for your input!
Rodd
Powell, Ohio, USA
1966 230SL, Euro, Auto, Leather, both tops
1994 E420
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Dear Moderator, web-master et al: I have tried a couple of times now to open the photos posted by 'Tosh' in the photo gallery on 3 November. When I hit the hotlinks I get the following error message:
"Sorry, there is no SL113.org web page matching your request.
It is possible you typed the address incorrectly, or that the page no longer exists. Please use the links to the left to see other pages on SL113.org."
This is a first - I don't have problems with other photos on the site. Is it my machine, or a glitch on the server? Any ideas?
Cheers,
kns.
1965 230SL, Manual
[1965 220SEb Coupe, Man.]
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Maybe it's my system but when I log on I always see page 12 first. I have to scroll up to page 1 and then it works just fine.
Is this how it's set up? It's not really a big deal - just wondering.
Dan c
Daniel G Caron
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Dan,
No, it's not set up that way. How exactly are you accessing the forum? Examples could be:
- Using a saved link in your browser's "Favorites" or "Bookmarks".
- Typing in the URL manually and allowing your browser to complete it since it knew where you recently visited.
- Clicking on Forums from the Home Page.
Thanks,
Rodd
Powell, Ohio, USA
1966 230SL, Euro, Auto, Leather, both tops
1994 E420
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As a very heavy user of this forum, I never checked out the 'active topics' button the top right of each page. I always have to click on each 'blue' forum to see what I haven't read yet. However, if you click on 'active topics', it neatly displays all of the topics ready for consumption. Worthwile to try sometime if you have not done so before.
Cees Klumper in Amsterdam
'69 white 280 SL automatic
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Hello Group,
A member recently asked me why we don't have the forums broken out into seperate topics. For example, the Cylinder Head and Rear Axle Replacement discussions are long, technical, and specific. They could be in their own forums. This was discussed at the creation of this web site and after much debate about having seperate forums (Engine, Transmission, Suspension, Electrical, Body Work, Interior, etc., etc.) we chose to go with the "all discussion threads in one forum" model.
What does the membership think about how it works now? How could it work better? Keep in mind that you can't move messages between threads, which deters reorgainization, and the search tool works really well.
quote:
Originally posted by rwmastel
Hello!
I'm the moderator of the "General Discussion" forum. We had planned on putting all the discussion threads into this "General Discussion" forum. This is to minimize the locations you need to search through to find new postings. There are other forums for special subjects, like Group Events, Items For Sale, etc, but this one is meant for all the common topics we dealt with on the Yahoo! site. Every time a discussion thread gets a new reply, it's pushed to the top of the page and the date of that message is listed to the right. This way, you can quickly see what's been written to most recently. With use you will achieve an understanding of it's function and you'll get more comfortable with it. It works quite well. I love being able to see a topic and to know that all replies to that topic are "on topic".
Thanks
Rodd
1966 230SL Euro
1994 E420
Rodd
Powell, Ohio, USA
1966 230SL, Euro, Auto, Leather, both tops
1994 E420
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Rodd, it ain't broke - don't fix it!
Great job, keep up the good work.
Thanks,
kns.
1965 230SL, Manual
[1965 220SEb Coupe, Man.]
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Rodd I wouldn't change a thing. Like one of our members said "if it aint broke don't fix it" I completely agree.
This is a great site! I want to give all involed in the conception and creation a big round of applause. You have done an outstanding job!
1969 280sl 5 spd 1999 ML320 Gainesville,Fl.
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I kind of find it frustrating that we have no next/prev page option. Any chance of this as trying to remember which page I saw something on is difficult (too much cellulose thinners [:p])
I suspect folk only look at page one because of the hassle, thus some questions may not get looked at if the forum get alot at once.
Otherwise
Great!
MAlc
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Malc,
I'm not sure what you mean by "next/prev page". There are a few controls to get around.
- There are left/right (next/prev) arrows at the top and bottom of each topic so you can skip to the next/prev topic.
- If you are looking at the list of topics, there is a drop down list of page numbers at the bottom of the screen. If you've been on vacation and missed a lot, you can skip back to any particular page you want.
Do these controls do what you want, or am I misunderstanding your request?
Rodd
Powell, Ohio, USA
1966 230SL, Euro, Auto, Leather, both tops
1994 E420
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quote:
Originally posted by rwmastel
Malc,
I'm not sure what you mean by "next/prev page". There are a few controls to get around.
Rod,
Er... probably not explaining very well. When I am in "general discussion" area at the bottom there is a box to view page number etc etc. What I am suggesting is that you could go to the "previous page". Reason being is if you go to say page 3 of 73, have a look, reply to a meassage you seem to be thrown back to page 1 rather than the page you were in.
Cheers
Malc
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Please when offering parts for sale, indicate where they are or what country they are in.
Thanks
Malc
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Rodd,
is there a way to delete an old post (by the poster), such as a wanted item that has been fulfilled? is there a good reason not to clear out clutter such as this?
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I believe the author of a post can delete their own post. Is that true in all forums, or just the General Discussion forum? I'm the Moderator of the General Discussion forum, so I can edit or delete any post in that one forum, but I don't know if I've ever had a need to do that.
One reason to keep it is for history/documentation. Maybe you bought that chrome trim form someone two years ago, but can't recall who it was. You can always go back and find out.
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Originally posted by pkiefert
Rodd,
is there a way to delete an old post (by the poster), such as a wanted item that has been fulfilled? is there a good reason not to clear out clutter such as this?
Rodd
Powell, Ohio, USA
1966 230SL, Euro, Auto, Leather, both tops
1994 E420
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Rodd,
Thaks to you I could upload my pics of the 11-city tour in the Netherlands. By doing so I experienced that there is a limit on the size of the name of the pic's file. If it is too long then the front page of the site appears after clicking on the douwnload link with a message which does not make sense. It says that the address is probably wrong. The address bar shows the address of the picture within the forum site. Obviously the software cannot handle such a large address. My suggstion would be to change the fault message in a way that the author knows what to do after he discovers that the download link doesn't properly work.
Gerard Wuisman,
1970 280sl
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quote:
Originally posted by gwuisman
.... there is a limit on the size of the name of the pic's file.
Gerard,
Thank you! I have had trouble attaching files before, and I wonder if this is the problem I was having. I would bet many people who have had mysterious errors when attaching files could be running into the same problem.
Richard,
Is there anything in the Snitz documentation about a limit on the size of the file name or the length of the path to the file being attached to a post?
Thanks,
Rodd
Powell, Ohio, USA
1966 230SL, Euro, Auto, Leather, both tops
1994 E420
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Rodd:
There is a line in one of the image upload control .asp files that says:
'set maximum allowed description text length
maxFileDescLength = 150'
I think this to means that the description of an uploaded image is limited and will be truncated (cut) if it exceeds the max allowed length.
This is done to avoid problems if a very long description is used. A mapquest URL, as an example, is over 500 characters long. The Snitz designers wanted to avoid long descriptions.
I read Gerard's suggestion to clarify this but we try to avoid changing the internal script of the asp files, could be dangerous. We will add a caution to the upload instructions.
Richard M
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Rodd,
Again I am surprised about the downloading of pics. Answering the latest post of Hands Aus I attached some pics of the ash tray of my cars. When I click on the first few and I put the cursor on the photo I get an icon in the lower right corner by which the photo can be enlarged. Nice to look more in detail. If I do this with the last pic the icon does not appear. I followed the same procedure with all photos. Strange isn't it? A mistery like our idle rmps?
Gerard Wuisman
1970 280sl
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Hi Rodd,
Question... since most all of us work on our own cars and are always looking for parts, new & used, is it ok if I start a post and ask the question .. " where do you buy your parts from?" The goal would be never to "bash" a vendor, but rather to share information on the most cost effective places to buy new and used parts.
Any issues with this?
Thanks,
Bob
quote:
Originally posted by rwmastel
Hello!
I'm the moderator of the "General Discussion" forum. We had planned on putting all the discussion threads into this "General Discussion" forum. This is to minimize the locations you need to search through to find new postings. There are other forums for special subjects, like Group Events, Items For Sale, etc, but this one is meant for all the common topics we dealt with on the Yahoo! site. Every time a discussion thread gets a new reply, it's pushed to the top of the page and the date of that message is listed to the right. This way, you can quickly see what's been written to most recently. With use you will achieve an understanding of it's function and you'll get more comfortable with it. It works quite well. I love being able to see a topic and to know that all replies to that topic are "on topic".
Of course, as with all things, this could change if there is enough demand (and logical reasoning!) over time. There will be no sudden changes in how we organize the forums or the web site in general, but we will listen to all suggestions and adapt when it makes good sense.
Thanks
Rodd
1966 230SL Euro
1994 E420
bpossel
Memphis, TN.
1971 280SL
1997 E320
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Attention All Fourm Users
Please use the various sections of the forums appropriately. Over the past few months there has been an inordinate amount of postings in the General Discussion fourm related to Group events, items for sale, and items wanted to buy. We have seperated out special forums for these needs so that people interested in these particular topics can go find the information much faster. Please try to use the forum catagories appropriately as it will benefit everyone.
Thank you,
Rodd
Powell, Ohio, USA
1966 230SL, Euro, Auto, Leather, both tops
1994 E420
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Format of postings
Here's a web site that makes some worth while suggestions on how to make your posts efficient and easy to read.
http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/2000/06/14/quoting.html
Rodd
Powell, Ohio, USA
1966 230SL, Euro, Auto, Leather, both tops
1994 E420
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Hey Rodd
The members of this forum need to be reminded that it is about the Pagoda cars and not their own personalities.
This group has a great reputation internationally as one of friendliness and politeness between members.
Let us not lose that reputation.
Bob Smith (Brisbane,Australia)
RHD,1967 early 250 SL, auto
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On thing that drives me crazy about this forum is the order of posts on a thread. I see the oldest post first, followed by the most recent and then they go down in decending order. If you're new to a thread, it's an insane way to read it.
Is this some sort of "feature" I accidently enabled? If so, how do I stop it? If this is normal for the board, why?
Thx -CTH
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quote:
Originally posted by cth350
On thing that drives me crazy about this forum is the order of posts on a thread. I see the oldest post first, followed by the most recent and then they go down in decending order. If you're new to a thread, it's an insane way to read it.
Is this some sort of "feature" I accidently enabled? If so, how do I stop it? If this is normal for the board, why?
Thx -CTH
CTH,
This is a setting that is set globally for the Forum. We chose this method because we felt most people visit the forum often. When visiting often, you don't want to be forced to scroll to the bottom of every thread, or to the second or third page of the thread, just to see the one new post since your last visit.
It was a choice that was made in the beginning and has been working well for almost 3 years now. Does that explain it?
Thanks,
Rodd
Powell, Ohio, USA
1966 230SL, Euro, Auto, Leather, both tops
1994 E420
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And there's no way to individually override it?
The funny thing, was it took me a good 30 seconds to find your reply to my post.
It's a screwy. But that's the breaks. Thanks for the info. -CTH
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Chuck,
I don't think it's an individual setting, but I'll check.
- Do you use the left and right arrow topics at the top and bottom of the thread to move from topic to topic?
- Do you use the Active Topics link in the top right corner Forums menu to find new topic since your last login?
These help make navigation faster and help you find new posts quickly.
Rodd
Powell, Ohio, USA
1966 230SL, Euro, Auto, Leather, both tops
1994 E420
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switching between active topics is easy. It's attempting to read a thread in cronological order that drives me nuts. Of all the benz forums I visit, I avoid this one as much as I dare because it's just hard to read. I spend more time in the 170/220 forums than this one and I don't own one of those. -CTH
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I for one like this format with the latest reply on top. If you want to look at a thread with the most recent on the bottom click on the printer friendly version and read from that. I do that when I want a printed copy of a tread for my hard file.
Bruce; 268Blaugrun(green) 1970 280SL; IL
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except that the latest reply isn't on top, it's one post away.
If the posts were simply backwards, I could handle that. -CTH