Pagoda SL Group

W113 Pagoda SL Group => Body, interior, paint, chrome, and cosmetic items => Topic started by: H. Keith Henry on December 27, 2021, 16:37:45

Title: two outside mirrors?
Post by: H. Keith Henry on December 27, 2021, 16:37:45
Other than the obvious hit for non-originality, why not add a right-hand (UK-spec) outside mirror to my US-spec Pagoda 280 SL?

Title: Re: two outside mirrors?
Post by: Pawel66 on December 27, 2021, 21:15:21
A lot of cars have that. I think recent discussions might have suggested that even though you could order it as an option, owners might have ordered these mirrors after some time of driving the car - just because it was useful. I am not sure if it is a significant violation of originality.

I think it is very practical. It needs to be in certain position as it is quite tricky to set it so that you see in it what you are supposed to see.

You may want to look through threads and see if the mirror position is somehow marked inside the aluminum frame. Otherwise I think there were posts indicating the place to attach this mirror. Do not forget the holding plate underneath.
Title: Re: two outside mirrors?
Post by: TJMart on December 27, 2021, 22:02:29
Other than the obvious hit for non-originality, why not add a right-hand (UK-spec) outside mirror to my US-spec Pagoda 280 SL?

The right side mirror was an option for the 280SL, so originality would not be an issue. Also in judging it would be acceptable under the "safety" exemption. I added mine many years ago and it was not difficult to install. I like the look of both mirrors too IMHO.
Title: Re: two outside mirrors?
Post by: Garry on December 28, 2021, 04:07:16
The left and right side mirrors are set at different positions. The passenger side mirror is set back due to the turn in of the mirror and if put in the same position as the drivers mirror will be obstructed by the A pillar.  Don’t ask how i know. :-[

There has been quite a bit written here if you do a search to get the correct measurements for fitting.
Title: Re: two outside mirrors?
Post by: Pawel66 on December 28, 2021, 09:38:15
Would like to second Garry - study the position of the right hand side mirror, it is not the same as left.
Title: Re: two outside mirrors?
Post by: WRe on December 28, 2021, 09:55:04
Hi,
here you can find some infos and photos for a proper placement of your passenger side mirror: https://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?topic=27834.msg200304#msg200304.
You should consider a mirror with convex mirrorglass.
...WRe
Title: Re: two outside mirrors?
Post by: H. Keith Henry on December 29, 2021, 01:21:49
Thank you everyone. More to this simple question than I imagined. Thanks for the heads-up on the originality non-issue, placement of the mirror, and convex glass. So placement of the right-hand mirror is not the same. I'll have to go back and reread the earlier threads to understand exactly where the mirror should be placed.
Title: Re: two outside mirrors?
Post by: doitwright on December 29, 2021, 07:18:49
The left and right side mirrors are set at different positions. The passenger side mirror is set back due to the turn in of the mirror and if put in the same position as the drivers mirror will be obstructed by the A pillar.  Don’t ask how i know. :-[

There[size=78%] has been quite a bit written here if you do a search to get the correct measurements for fitting.[/size]

This mirror placement only applies to early style mirrors.
Title: Re: two outside mirrors?
Post by: H. Keith Henry on December 30, 2021, 04:41:22
So, on my 1970 SL, would the left and right mirrors be in the same location?
Title: Re: two outside mirrors?
Post by: Garry on December 30, 2021, 05:06:07
Yes, sorry i confused the discussion a bit by referring to the earlier models of the Pagoda that had different mirror positions on Left and Right.


Garry
Title: Re: two outside mirrors?
Post by: doitwright on December 30, 2021, 06:35:19
So, on my 1970 SL, would the left and right mirrors be in the same location?

Yes
Title: Re: two outside mirrors?
Post by: johnk on December 30, 2021, 13:55:05
. Do not forget the holding plate underneath.

Is the holding plate for the right side only? I ordered one when putting the drivers side back and it would not fit.
Title: Re: two outside mirrors?
Post by: Pawel66 on December 30, 2021, 16:36:24
It is for both mirrors (at least this is what I had and have).

I never checked if the right hand side is the same as left hand side (I could find none on the parts list, actually, neither left nor right for W113).

SLS have only the left one, I think: https://www.sls-hh-shop.de/main/de/mercedes-230-280sl-w113/81-spiegel-sonnenblenden-anbauteile-ausstattung

Maybe there is a re-enforcement there in the door structure as of certain VIN?
Title: Re: two outside mirrors?
Post by: johnk on December 30, 2021, 23:08:27
Yes my drivers side door seemed
To have the reinforcement built in already.