Pagoda SL Group

W113 Pagoda SL Group => Drive train, fuel, suspension, steering & brakes => Topic started by: Tdoo on March 21, 2020, 17:47:07

Title: Electric pagoda
Post by: Tdoo on March 21, 2020, 17:47:07
I wonder if anyone has seen this it’s an electric pagoda. that a company called ionic cars .com is offering for around £250k .i found out about it from a news article where a tv presenter / ex model tried to charge it up from a Tesla charger .it looks stunning ( the car that is lol ) 


Pagoda
BEAUTIFULLY & SYMPATHETICALLY RESTORED
 Electric Mercedes Pagoda
Current*   Ionic
Emissions   4,559 kg C02 per annum   ZERO
0-60   8.8 seconds   7.0 seconds
BHP   168 BHP / 244 Nm torque   180 BHP / 550 Nm torque
Range   243 miles   160+ miles
Cost to refuel/charge   £99.04   £8.21
 Mercedes Pagoda Specification
Maintain structural integrity; conversion is reversable, maintaining value & options into the future
Close to original weight & weight distribution
CAD designed & optimised
Brand-new 57Kwh battery pack with advanced battery management and temperature control
Brand-new OEM-grade 3 phase AC motor
Brand-new custom single speed 1.80:1 gearbox
Regenerative braking
Custom designed dials, showing vital information whilst maintaining ‘original’ appearance
Title: Re: Electric pagoda
Post by: JamesL on March 21, 2020, 22:02:27
Saw this at ColinFerns a couple of weeks back.
The car, not the model. Gorgeous though Colin is.
Title: Re: Electric pagoda
Post by: beachbear on March 22, 2020, 19:52:39
Curious that Iconic removed the model badge from the lid but kept the tail pipe. This is also the most subtle charging port I've seen in electric conversions too! :o
Title: Re: Electric pagoda
Post by: MikeSimon on March 22, 2020, 20:33:03
A while ago, I watched a TV program (do not remember what it was0 where they converted a 356 Porsche to all-electric.
While I do applaud these guys for putting their ingenuity to work and finding a way that these classic cars will still be driven and not only sit in museum collections in 20 years, I am glad I am too old to see the full effect of electrification of motor vehicles. I still get goose bumps when they start the engines at races and I cherish the smell of burning hydro-carbon molecules....
Have you ever come back from a spirited drive in your favorite car, put her in the garage and just sit there and listen to the cracking noises of the engine and body cooling down????
Title: Re: Electric pagoda
Post by: doitwright on March 23, 2020, 21:21:43
We are all familiar with the classic and patented  sound of a Harley Davidson motorcycle. Have you heard their new electric bike? Here is a sample:
https://youtu.be/skzQcCiwpFc
Title: Re: Electric pagoda
Post by: MikeSimon on March 24, 2020, 12:53:30
I "test rode" one during the local motorcycle show. They had two demos on dynos. I am heavily into motorcycles 9currently own 140 and, again, this is not "my bag"
The instant availability of torque is impressive, though. Doesn't beat the sound and smell of an "Otto" engine, however!
My major concerns regarding electric vehicles for everyday use still are:
- battery life and expense to replace it
- battery memory when re-charging
- cold weather performance
Title: Re: Electric pagoda
Post by: 66andBlue on March 25, 2020, 02:18:08
... Doesn't beat the sound and smell of an "Otto" engine, however!
...
Would Leno's turbine car be noisy enough for you?  ;)  ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iepnr-Rx4Uw
Title: Re: Electric pagoda
Post by: MikeSimon on March 27, 2020, 14:09:35
 ;D ;D It is not the sound (noise) in DBa, it is the character of the sound. Not much of a fan of turbine engines either. ??? jay Leno has one of the Y2K turbine motorcycles also, which I was able to see and hear at Mid-Ohio. It is different. If I would get excited about all these "modern" alternatives, I wouldn't own two cars from the 70s. ::)
Title: Re: Electric pagoda
Post by: Justin_ionic on April 03, 2020, 16:42:15
Hello all,

If you'd like to understand any more about our Ionic Pagoda please feel free to reach out to me and I'd be happy to answer any questions. Instagram @ioniccars

All the best & stay safe.

Justin

Ionic Automotive Limited
www.ioniccars.com
Title: Re: Electric pagoda
Post by: Tdoo on April 23, 2020, 22:56:20
The car looks stunning and by the looks of things it is restored to a very high standard ,would like to put it next to a hemmels one and see how they differ restoration wise ,and I know it’s electric .i think these guys have started a trend on the way classic cars can still be something that’s looks classic but very modern and eco friendly .its a great way to own a classic car .
Title: Re: Electric pagoda
Post by: MikeSimon on October 06, 2022, 17:34:31
Bump! Food for thought!

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a41463763/everyone-has-the-wrong-idea-about-ev-converted-classic-cars/

Title: Re: Electric pagoda
Post by: Mike Hughes on October 06, 2022, 17:54:29
I "test rode" one during the local motorcycle show. They had two demos on dynos. I am heavily into motorcycles 9currently own 140 and, again, this is not "my bag"
The instant availability of torque is impressive, though. Doesn't beat the sound and smell of an "Otto" engine, however!
My major concerns regarding electric vehicles for everyday use still are:
- battery life and expense to replace it
- battery memory when re-charging
- cold weather performance

A neighbor of mine up at our vacation home in the mountains home-built an electric racing bike based on an old Norton chassis.  After several years of on track trial-and-error development (he was allowed to run it in races with a retired professional rider who still maintained his competition license as an experimental exhibition bike) he worked out a lot of the battery life and performance issues. Finally they were allowed to compete in a serious important race against petrol fueled bikes - and won outright.  The bike is now in the Barber Vintage Motorsports Museum in Alabama.
Title: Re: Electric pagoda
Post by: MikeSimon on October 06, 2022, 19:30:15
For me, the passion for a vehicle is not based on performance. If this was it, I would not own anything, because I could not afford a 1000hp+ supercar. I usually get "goosebumps" when the announcer says: "Drivers start your engines" - and the roar begins. 8)
Title: Re: Electric pagoda
Post by: neelyrc on October 06, 2022, 23:37:47
…….The bike is now in the Skip Barber Museum in Alabama…….
Mike, not trying to be a smart a—, but the museum founder is Alabama dairyman George W. and not the racer John “Skip” Barber.  George W. did however race Porches back in the 1960s.
Title: Re: Electric pagoda
Post by: Colingo on October 07, 2022, 12:12:52
Ionic has been taken over by Everatti - better known for their 500bhp electric Porsches
Title: Re: Electric pagoda
Post by: Mike Hughes on October 07, 2022, 14:07:18
No problem, Ralph, I only remembered "Barber" and thought it was Skip.  The correct name of the museum is Barber Vintage Motorsports Museum, and I have edited my original post to reflect that.

Check out their website at:  https://www.barbermuseum.org/

Say "Hi!" to FLora from Lucy and me.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Electric pagoda
Post by: MikeSimon on October 07, 2022, 19:25:45
Every time I go to the Barber museum, I have to check off the bikes I own...
Title: Re: Electric pagoda
Post by: neelyrc on October 07, 2022, 22:40:24
………Say "Hi!" to FLora from Lucy and me.

Cheers!

Will do Mike!  Thanks, and a big hello to the both of you from Italy.

Next visit to Barber I will check out the electric bike if it is on floor display.  This weekend is their Vintage Festival which is great fun but unfortunately at an inconvenient time for us.