Pagoda SL Group

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Title: Picked up this German-made 15-window 1963 cutie recently from Kansas
Post by: teahead on March 16, 2020, 17:24:26
Shipped to Seattle.

Title: Re: Picked up this German-made 15-window 1963 cutie recently from Kansas
Post by: mdsalemi on March 26, 2020, 16:23:56
Looks to be in exceptionally good condition!  Nice find!
Title: Re: Picked up this German-made 15-window 1963 cutie recently from Kansas
Post by: EeVeeWee on March 26, 2020, 19:31:44
It's a Brazilian bus, did you know?  ;)
Title: Re: Picked up this German-made 15-window 1963 cutie recently from Kansas
Post by: teahead on March 26, 2020, 19:39:07
It's a Brazilian bus, did you know?  ;)

You know anything about buses?

Brazillians:  high hinge cargo doors, no recess in door handles, no deluxe clock.  This one has VIN stamp in engine compartment is GERMAN, plus the VW Museum certficate says GERMAN.
Title: Re: Picked up this German-made 15-window 1963 cutie recently from Kansas
Post by: teahead on March 26, 2020, 19:43:48
GERMAN!
Title: Re: Picked up this German-made 15-window 1963 cutie recently from Kansas
Post by: teahead on March 26, 2020, 19:47:26
More proof
Title: Re: Picked up this German-made 15-window 1963 cutie recently from Kansas
Post by: EeVeeWee on March 26, 2020, 20:46:46
You know anything about buses?

Brazillians:  high hinge cargo doors, no recess in door handles, no deluxe clock, VIN stamp in engine compartment is GERMAN, plus the VW Museum certficate says GERMAN.

OK you convinced me, you are right.
It really seemed Brazilian because of the color, narrow rear tailgate and I didn't see the hinges of the cargo doors.
The most 1963 bus already have a wider tailgate, but I read it was from August 1963.
Yes I know anything about Split Window buses, we call this Type 2 T1 and this is my self-restored one:  ;D

(https://www.mupload.nl/img/dwsuwym1epw.jpg)
Title: Re: Picked up this German-made 15-window 1963 cutie recently from Kansas
Post by: teahead on March 26, 2020, 20:50:16
Nice Brazillian.

;)
Title: Re: Picked up this German-made 15-window 1963 cutie recently from Kansas
Post by: EeVeeWee on March 26, 2020, 21:03:09
Nice Brazillian.

;)

No way!  ;D
Title: Re: Picked up this German-made 15-window 1963 cutie recently from Kansas
Post by: teahead on March 26, 2020, 21:10:56
Aside from the 2/3 middle seat (mine was born with a full middle seat), this is how my bus was born as (PO painted the GM teal/silver):

https://www.oldbug.com/kw6315.htm
Title: Re: Picked up this German-made 15-window 1963 cutie recently from Kansas
Post by: teahead on March 26, 2020, 21:16:26
FYI, anotoher way to distinguish a brazillian is the cargo door inner handle mechanism.

Brazillian:

(https://images.auction123.com/de9ed196-a2a5-4333-9dfc-fb7a43f4dff7/11316/67.jpg)


Mine:

Title: Re: Picked up this German-made 15-window 1963 cutie recently from Kansas
Post by: teahead on March 26, 2020, 21:19:02
More brazillian examples:

Title: Re: Picked up this German-made 15-window 1963 cutie recently from Kansas
Post by: Garry on March 26, 2020, 21:19:16
Welcome to the VW club.  Hope you have deep pockets and patience to keep it running.  Just as a correction, the term Barn door did not refer to the side doors but was the rear engine bay door.  The very early ones had a very large door to access engine, the later ones in the pictures are not the nicknamed “barn door” models.
Title: Re: Picked up this German-made 15-window 1963 cutie recently from Kansas
Post by: teahead on March 26, 2020, 21:44:48
Nice SC!  Matches the Pagoda too!

Right.  Learned a lot from this website too:

http://www.baronvonkronken.com/busguide=trimsanddetails.htm
Title: Re: Picked up this German-made 15-window 1963 cutie recently from Kansas
Post by: MikeSimon on March 26, 2020, 23:30:48
I do not have a VW Bus, but there is one that is my all-time favorite!! I think I posted a picture of this before here. My wife (in the picture0 is 5' tall!!
Porsche flat 6 engine, Porsche running gear, Recaro seats!!!
Title: Re: Picked up this German-made 15-window 1963 cutie recently from Kansas
Post by: 66andBlue on March 27, 2020, 05:13:46
Will this one become as popular?
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-8144187/VWs-60k-electric-e-BULLI-classic-T1-Samba-Bus-124-miles-range.html

I still miss my 1971 Westfalia Pop-top Camper. We dove it from SoCal all the way up to Fairbanks, AK and as far south as Guadalajara, Mexico, before moving across with it to Florida.
Title: Re: Picked up this German-made 15-window 1963 cutie recently from Kansas
Post by: Garry on March 27, 2020, 05:55:48
Alfred,


Our Bay Poptop.


Before I got away from VW’s this is what we used driving around Australia for the big circuit.  Broke down everywhere, Great fun and it stopped where ever it wanted and you camped until fixed and then moved on.


Sold my last one, the Single Cab Ute late  last year. I had had enough of the break downs by then.
Title: Re: Picked up this German-made 15-window 1963 cutie recently from Kansas
Post by: 114015 on March 27, 2020, 21:43:33
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Sold my last one, the Single Cab Ute late  last year.

Garry,
You don't have your T1 single cab Volkswagen anymore...?
I did not realize that.
But you did a thorough nut-and-bolt restoration on yours;
so,  it shouldn't break down anymore, or?  ???

Those weren't supposed to be so unreliable in the old days either... ::)



Best,
Achim

Title: Re: Picked up this German-made 15-window 1963 cutie recently from Kansas
Post by: 66andBlue on March 28, 2020, 06:11:10
... Broke down everywhere, Great fun and it stopped where ever it wanted and you camped until fixed and then moved on....
Gary, I wonder why. I don't remember you having a lead-foot.  ;)
My engine blew after about 90K miles when we drove up the Cajon Pass . That was the end of a planned ski vacation at Mammoth Mountain. After the engine rebuilt - no further breakdowns until I traded it in with 237K miles.
Title: Re: Picked up this German-made 15-window 1963 cutie recently from Kansas
Post by: Garry on March 28, 2020, 07:00:08
Alfred, i think it had to do with the number of miles 200-400 travelled in a day and the 100f+ temperatures. 


The valves really needed adjusting all the time and the air cooled motor hated the hot weather.  I installed an oil cooler that helped a bit but i continued to have lots of problems that after a few years i just gave up and built a new VW T6 camper in 2016.


Note it’s MB 334 light blue top half.....same as my Pagoda.
Title: Re: Picked up this German-made 15-window 1963 cutie recently from Kansas
Post by: MikeSimon on March 28, 2020, 23:00:46
I admire all you guys who are into "camping". Last time I camped was in 1974. Italy. Lignano Sabbiadoro at the Adriatics. We were down there with friends and had a fall-out. They had taken our tent on the roof rack of their BMW 2002. We drove my 914-6. In order to get home, I sold the tent right there at the campground. Never camped again and never regretted not doing so. Even a cheap hotel room with a bathroom and a shower beats any camping comfort. 8)